Posted on 03/15/2016 7:56:54 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
>>>Trump knows more about it than any other candidate..
I disagree strongly. His solutions are more government control of the economy. That has never worked.
>>>So what do you see as the problem?
Why do you think GM produces lower quality products at a higher price? Do you think it’s Japan’s fault?
Thanks much for your reply.
I am quite libertarian and I believe free enterprise is the best system resulting in the greatest standard of living. I oppose Trump on economics because of this.
>> I’m more concerned with immigration
Immigration is not the problem. America has had mass immigration before.
Again, we’re being sold a boogieman, we’re being told we’re victims of somebody else - Mexico in this case.
You cannot solve the problem if you don’t realize what the problem is.
If you let in millions of Mexicans either legally or illegally most of them are going to vote for more government not less and so will their kids and Grandkids. This is partially why California turned from a relatively republican state to a solid blue state. A huge percent of Mexican Americans vote Democrat and probably always continue to do so. So your libertarian open border policy is going to ironically make America more socialist not less.
Facts:
1) Except in the very odd/exceptional election year of 1964, the Dems haven’t cracked 50% of the whites in a Presidential election since 1932.
2) Once the ‘64 election was over, the Dems understood that they would never win another Presidential election again unless the Republicans REALLY screwed up...or unless they changed the electorate in a dramatic way.
3) The Dems, courtesy of Bobby Kennedy who wrote the law, and Teddy Kennedy who pushed it in the Senate, passed the 1965 Immigration Act. That law dramatically reduced immigration from our then-traditional large sources of immigrants - England, Ireland, Holland, Germany, etc. - and replaced them with vast numbers of Turd Worlders...whom everyone knows vote around 80% for Dems, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives, as new immigrants have traditionally done.
4) As a result of the ‘65 Act, and due to the Dem’s outright lying in ‘86 regarding an effective (or any) fence, there are now probably 30 - 40 million illegals in this nation. Note that the (probably low-ball) figure in 2005 was 11 million...we have 2-3 million come in every year, so simple math says that the number is actually somewhere between 31 and 41 million). If any substantial portion of these people ever become citizens, then the Dems will have accomplished a complete shift of the electorate, and will be virtually invincible on the national level. Every state will become like California, both politically and economically - which is to say, overwhelming Dem and broke. But at least if you don’t like California now, you can leave for a better place without much trouble - where are you going to go if EVERY state is like that?
5) Every Republican, and every Conservative voter MUST UNDERSTAND that if such a state of affairs comes to be, NO OTHER ISSUE WILL MATTER AT ALL, because we will ALWAYS AND FOREVER lose on those issues. Immigration is THE issue of this election, and this election is as critical as the 1860 election was - and for the same reason, because it will determine whether this nation continues on as it has existed in the past, or becomes a new and unrecognizable entity that simply occupies the same geographic territory.
Please wake up, and help others to do so by sending them this post (or recommending “Adios America” to them). It really is THAT important.
>>>So what do you see as the problem?
I think you may be referring to my post on immigration not being the problem.
If so, why is immigration the problem now and not when we’ve had mass immigration in the past? What has changed?
but they just couldn't jeopardize their cushy paychecks. instead they left us to do the fighting ourselves! Without them. Which we did. And still are doing!
Thanks for your reply.
I think you have identified the problem.
>>>most of them are going to vote for more government not less
Why is this a choice? How did this happen to be that we can vote to take from others for ourselves?
If this is a choice, then it’s not just immigrants you have to worry about.
>>>Why is this a choice? How did this happen to be that we can vote to take from others for ourselves?
If this is a choice, then it’s not just immigrants you have to worry about.
True. But as I said adding more Mexicans is going to result in more government, not less.
The difference is the type of immigration. It used to be mainly European. Now it is mainly not European. Non-Europeans tend to vote heavily Democrat.
Only if we allow more government as a choice.
If it’s a choice, immigrants are just a fraction of the problem.
It’s really facetious to say: “it’s the immigrants!” when it’s not. Stop the immigrants and the problem is fixed. It’s not.
We’d be buying a boogieman and a false solution to the problem we refuse to face.
No, it’s not the type of immigrant. It’s the type of America.
We have American-born “immigrants” that create the same problem.
Stopping immigration is not the total solution but continuing immigration will make the problem worse.
Not addressing the problem does no good. You have not done anything real. You’ve only encouraged politicians who fool you about the real problem.
Thinking “stop immigration” and “tax foreign products” and it will be fixed is a futile exercise.
You only hurt the economy and continue the same policy that created the problem.
It’s a useless, and harmful, distraction.
Cut to the chase:
We have to be America, unique in all of history. Not a victim of anyone. The inventors, entrepreneurs, the creators, the builders, the innovators.
We have to make others realize that freedom, liberty, moral values are best for them and for all, and that America is the place where those who work hard can accomplish their dream - unlike anywhere else on earth. And the government and society will not hold them or their children back.
If we cannot do this, if we become another nanny, government help me, I’m a victim, protect me, state...
Then who cares about immigrants or tariffs?
excellent
The USA built the worlds wealthiest society behind tariffs walls. The last 30 years has seen that wealth trained away, much of our population is now unemployed and living on government assistance. What changed? We adopted so called free trade. It is time to go back to the tried and true American First economic policies.
A very important thread to bookmark. There are so many great posts... especially 14 & 15.
Well, if you have been reading about the subject, China makes US car makers build their plants in China if they want to sell cars in China. This strong arm game China plays on trade was covered in a Forbes article posted today.
Our government does nothing to fight that strong arming and so we just lose and lose. China did the same thing to Boeing not too long ago. We lost Boeing manufacturing to China so China would buy Boeing airplanes.
China is a big market US corporations covet. So they are willing to kill off our economy in order to sell to China.
Why don’t you move to Somalia? They don’t much government there. You can have your libertarian paradise.
>>Why don’t you move to Somalia? They don’t much government there.
Let’s see what’s the corollary response?
Why don’t you move to Cuba? Venezuela?
I dunno pick your ‘much government’ haven.
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