Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Kasich opposes religious freedom
Thinklets ^ | 2-23-16 | Elena Ives

Posted on 02/24/2016 3:23:52 PM PST by Ivy-vine

Presidential candidate, John Kasich has weighed in on the Oregon bakers who were driven out of business and fined $135,000 because they declined to bake the cake for a gay wedding. This is what he said:

“I think frankly, our churches should not be forced to do anything that’s not consistent with them. But if you’re a cupcake maker and somebody wants a cupcake, make them a cupcake, Let’s not have a big lawsuit or argument over all this stuff — move on. The next thing, you know, they might be saying, if you’re divorced you shouldn’t get a cupcake.”

“Make them the cupcake?” Really? Is that an order King Kasich? Because I thought we still had a Constitution which mandates that our elected officials stay out of our business.

This removes all doubt about Kasich being a conservative. But it confirms how he views himself. As everybody’s daddy endowing all his patriarchal wisdom on the children who gather at his feet. It’s as if he’s wearing a creepy autocratic Father Knows Best mask.

“Make them the cupcake” indeed. Has he ever heard about the 13th Amendment? It prohibits a thing called “involuntary servitude.” That means that if someone doesn’t want to “make them the cupcake,” they don’t have to “make them the cupcake.”

It’s been in effect for over 200 years, and as far as I can see, divorced people still get to have cupcakes pretty much as often as they want.

Oh and speaking of that, if someone is having a divorce party, a Christian baker should be able to reasonably decline baking the cake for that, too. Even if King Kasich, Mr. Non Sequitur, feels he has been ordained with the authority from God knows where — because it’s not the Constitution he swore to uphold — to command that they “make” it.

It doesn’t matter that his logic is asinine. Bottom line is it’s none of his damn business. Being governor of a state does not give him the right to walk into the kitchens of bakeries and command the owners to “make” anything.

I know it’s been pretty beat up lately, but we still have the Constitution.

Get out, Kasich.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: 2016election; johnkasich; oregonbakers; religiousliberty
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

1 posted on 02/24/2016 3:23:52 PM PST by Ivy-vine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

Thanks for eliminating another candidate from my further consideration!


2 posted on 02/24/2016 3:26:38 PM PST by kaehurowing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

“I think frankly, our churches should not be forced to do anything that’s not consistent with them. But if you’re a cupcake maker and somebody wants a cupcake, make them a cupcake, Let’s not have a big lawsuit or argument over all this stuff, move on. The next thing, you know, they might be saying, if you’re divorced you shouldn’t get a cupcake.”

Say good bye Gov. Get off the stage. And if you want a Muslim cab driver to bring you a bottle of scotch from the liquor store, get your walking shoes on. Moron.


3 posted on 02/24/2016 3:27:09 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jessduntno

Ohio Kasich firewall.


4 posted on 02/24/2016 3:28:02 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

No shoes, no shirt, no service


5 posted on 02/24/2016 3:32:12 PM PST by onona (I've held my nose so long I can't even remember what an election smells like !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

Kasich autocorrect? “Mask have.” Demonstrated to be a moron.


6 posted on 02/24/2016 3:32:13 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stocksthatgoup

“Ohio Kasich firewall.”

Bonfire is more like it.


7 posted on 02/24/2016 3:33:34 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

Don’t places still have the sign: “We reserve the right to refuse service to customers”??


8 posted on 02/24/2016 3:34:13 PM PST by cloudmountain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cloudmountain

Those have been over-ridden by nanny state laws.
It’s no longer a free country in many states.


9 posted on 02/24/2016 3:35:26 PM PST by nascarnation (RIP Scalia. Godspeed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/22/politics/john-kasich-increased-media-attention/ The quote is on CNN. I assume the big government liberal really said this.

Personally, I would have baked the cake for the perverts. I would have done a good job if they hired me. And I would have charged them triple to make up for dealing with something I found disgusting (I used to charge democrats triple, when I was willing to consult for them at all). That is my personal choice because, to me, baking a cake does not constitute participating in their parody of a sacred sacrament.

However, Kasich is fatally wrong on this question. It’s not about what I would choose to do or what he would choose to do. This is about our God-given individual right to the free exercise of our religion - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, in all areas of our lives. By arguing against protecting the God-given rights enshrined in the Constitution, Kasich is proving that my previous conclusion about him was right, as was my reasoning. Kasich does not value either the literal words of the Constitution or the idea of natural rights.


10 posted on 02/24/2016 3:36:13 PM PST by Pollster1 ("A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to mean is worthless." - Scalia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

So to Kasich if you want to own a business you must be willing to forego your religious convictions. As I recall the bakery owners didn’t refuse to sell a simple cake they refused to decorate that cake to glorify homosexuality. That is a big difference.


11 posted on 02/24/2016 3:38:12 PM PST by nclaurel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kaehurowing

Yep, no way should this man be considered for VP or any higher office.


12 posted on 02/24/2016 3:40:07 PM PST by Parley Baer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

If a black guy goes into a restaurant and orders a cup of coffee and a doughnut and the restaurant owner refuses to serve the guy because of his “religious convictions”, that’s against the law in every state.

How is this different?


13 posted on 02/24/2016 3:41:08 PM PST by Signalman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cloudmountain

Back in the early ‘80’s I took a course in business law. I was taught that no one can be compelled to perform without a contract...and there is no contract until there is a meeting of the minds .


14 posted on 02/24/2016 3:43:29 PM PST by wtd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

This is why, if you value your religious and other freedoms, you don’t vote for “compassionate conservatism” RINOs like Kasich. You vote for Cruz.


15 posted on 02/24/2016 3:45:29 PM PST by mtrott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

Trump kaisich both tell Christians do your jobs!


16 posted on 02/24/2016 3:46:20 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Signalman

The refusal is not based on the fact thst they are gay. They are taking part in an event that is against their faith.


17 posted on 02/24/2016 3:51:03 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

Kasich is one dumb cookie. President of the High School Student Council is about his upper limit.


18 posted on 02/24/2016 3:51:56 PM PST by ozzymandus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine

A $135,000 fine certainly violates the prohibition against excessive fines in the Constitution.


19 posted on 02/24/2016 3:54:59 PM PST by Brian Griffin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ivy-vine; ResisTyr; Impy; BillyBoy

Kasich SUICIDE watch ping!


20 posted on 02/24/2016 3:55:27 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (https://www.facebook.com/TedCruz2016page/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson