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GOP pushed Iowa win for Cruz only to blunt Trump and pump up Rubio
nytimes.com ^ | FEB. 2, 2016 | David Brooks

Posted on 02/02/2016 6:54:18 AM PST by Trumpinator

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To: libbylu

A pattern is there to see:
1. There was a much lesser turn-out for Democrats then before.
2. About that same number of “new” Gop registrations occurred on the day of the vote.
3. Rubio, a GOPe open borders candidate did very well in a State not known for supporting open borders.
4. We have seen GOPe use democrats to pump up Diablo’s against conservatives in other races.

IMHO the New GOP registrations were mostly Democrats gaming the vote to help ensure a brokered convention where the GOPe candidate can be forced on us.


21 posted on 02/02/2016 7:04:11 AM PST by Mechanicos
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To: RayChuang88
But one thing that I could see Rubio do is peel off a huge number of Hispanic voters. If that happens, Hillary Clinton is done.

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I think the Hispanic vote is kind of a myth. Hispanics are not that much of a uni-block. It is like saying the Eastern European vote in that Hispanics seem to be one group but come from many different Latin countries that are sometimes indifferent or hostile to one another.

22 posted on 02/02/2016 7:04:23 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: RayChuang88

But one thing that I could see Rubio do is peel off a huge number of Hispanic voters. If that happens, Hillary Clinton is done.


No, the GOP is done if Rubio is the nom. Senor Rubio will never win the “rust belt” after supporting TPA. Rubio cast the 60th vote for TPA on cloture. The Dems will hang that around his neck and bash him Romney style.


23 posted on 02/02/2016 7:04:28 AM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: Vision Thing

Ive been reading his posts. He’s gonna end up getting a permanent ban. He can’t help himself.


24 posted on 02/02/2016 7:04:30 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: VanDeKoik

...and you still think the establishment is that powerfull?

LOL

...and you still think the establishment favors Cruz over Trump the ethanol crony deal maker?

LOL. No basis for either theory.


25 posted on 02/02/2016 7:04:44 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Trumpinator

815 plant.

Trump lost.


26 posted on 02/02/2016 7:05:07 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: reegs
There’s no denying it, skipping the debate hurt Trump in Iowa.

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I honestly don't think so. Iowa is not an election in the normal sense. I think Trump not going to every county in Iowa did more to hurt him there than skipping a debate.

27 posted on 02/02/2016 7:05:50 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: lodi90

Rubio pulling a Jeb and campaining in spanish will haunt him to. If he gets the nomination he will go down in flames to bernie or hitlery.
Rubio will be our next mclame and mittens. The GOPe sacrificial lamb.


28 posted on 02/02/2016 7:06:17 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: Trumpinator
Ahhh, a common target, Rubio.

Rubio is just what the Establishment on both sides would love.

They both grabbed the star-struck 'Kid' and initiated him into their Gang-of-Eight, molded and shaped him to be just like them.

29 posted on 02/02/2016 7:07:14 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: libbylu; C. Edmund Wright

Welcome back from double secret probation! It is most certainly hilarious to see the analysis of David Brooks (SRSLY?!) being used to pump Trump.


30 posted on 02/02/2016 7:07:31 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: libbylu

Trumpinator, aka Putinator, wants Trump in because he knows he will lie down with Putin and assist him in restoring the Russian empire. Only this time, besides Eastern Europe, it will include positions in the militarily strategic, resource-rich Middle East. That plus their numerous allies throughout leftist Latin America, who they’ve been stepping up their arms transfers in recent years with, plus their increasingly close military alliance with the ChiComs, who they’ve been conducting annual joint war games with since 2005, in obvious preparation for war with us and our NATO allies.


31 posted on 02/02/2016 7:08:14 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I wonder if David Crease in the Pants Brooks has ever been right about anything. Professional knucklehead serving as the NYT token conservative, and really a token.


32 posted on 02/02/2016 7:08:40 AM PST by doosee (Captain, we are approaching a new level of Hell.)
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To: Trumpinator

This is the stupidest thing every written. Is that why Branstad and his lobbyist son risked their credibility (and lost of all it) to defeat Cruz? Brooks is the essence of blue-blood, elitist GOP. He knows the only thing between Rubio and the nomination is Ted Cruz. And you, as a Trump Troll, know that Trump’s numbers are as high as they’ll ever go. The only way he wins is to split the conservative vote.


33 posted on 02/02/2016 7:09:03 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump: We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity)
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To: Slyfox

What really hurt Trump was the way he treated the well-respected Iowa preacher Bob Vander Plaats.
That was way worse than snubbing the debate.


Nobody jumped from Trump to Rubio based on what Trump said about that guy. That’s what swung the race.


34 posted on 02/02/2016 7:10:01 AM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: ETL

You are still here Trolling? Yea, Trump is a KGB agent I am sure.


35 posted on 02/02/2016 7:10:25 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: demshateGod

I am many things but I am not a Trump troll - Trump booster yes.


36 posted on 02/02/2016 7:11:10 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: lodi90

Thank you for your opinion.


37 posted on 02/02/2016 7:11:12 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

Yeah, I DO think they are THAT POWERFUL.

Are some of you Cruz people so punch Drunk over a one-delegate lead that you think the GOPe is just like “well that was a good try, let’s go home”?

These people control the process, and they arent going to go away because of some nothing caucus “win”. from a guy that spent a year of his life living there.

Rubio got 3rd on the cheap, and is relatively unscratched in pubic opinion.

So yeah, sit there a laugh like a naive schoolgirl. The DNCe and GOPe are not defeated, they know that the U.S. consists of more than Iowa, sadly unlike most Cruz supporters.


38 posted on 02/02/2016 7:11:21 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Trumpinator

You made up a headline for an unrelated NYT article to continue to push your utterly delusional theory?! That sort of intentionally dishonest behavior can lead to your dismissal from this forum, though that’s not my call.


39 posted on 02/02/2016 7:13:29 AM PST by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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To: Trumpinator

The amazing surge for Marco Rubio shows that the Republican electorate has not gone collectively insane. ....................... From the NYT, gee, when they say nice things about a republican candidate and electorate, you know what that means? “HILLARY”.


40 posted on 02/02/2016 7:15:10 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Just an old grumpy guy looking back in time, wondering WTF happened?)
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