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Sen. Ted Cruz Is a Naturalized Citizen, not a Natural Born Citizen
London Telegraph ^ | Jnuary 30th, 2016 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 01/30/2016 6:07:38 PM PST by kathsua

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Cruz needs to drop out so eligible conservatives have a chance. The judges who ignored Obama's citizenship problem and forged birth certificate won't hesitate to keep Cruz off the ballot.
1 posted on 01/30/2016 6:07:38 PM PST by kathsua
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To: kathsua

When did he go through the naturalization process?


2 posted on 01/30/2016 6:08:51 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: FewsOrange

When he was born. Contrary to what a lot of FReepers think, it IS possible to be a naturalised citizen from birth, if your citizenship derives from congressional statute.


3 posted on 01/30/2016 6:11:21 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: kathsua; 2ndDivisionVet
"If registration requirements have not been met, Cruz is not any kind of U.S. citizen."

According to the Telegraph, Cruz isn't even a citizen. And if he did register, then he is naturalized not natural born.

4 posted on 01/30/2016 6:11:23 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: FewsOrange

At birth in Canada, when he was deemed a citizen by Congressional statute. Feel sorry for the guy, he’s smart and talented, but there are lots of other positions in this administration he will qualify for...just not President or Vice President.


5 posted on 01/30/2016 6:11:44 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: kathsua

Wasn’t Obama a foreign exchange student? Did anyone ever review his college transcript.


6 posted on 01/30/2016 6:12:31 PM PST by FreedBird
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To: kathsua

Please cite relevant case law proving that there’s such a thing as “naturalized by statute” at birth as distinct from “natural born”. I’m unaware of the law recognizing such a distinction.


7 posted on 01/30/2016 6:16:01 PM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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There isn’t such a thing. It is just a crazy birther claim.


8 posted on 01/30/2016 6:17:26 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: kathsua

From the London Telegraph? And the English (still) regard our revolution as illegal too.


9 posted on 01/30/2016 6:17:34 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: kathsua

Rubio is not eligible, either.
His parents were foreign nationals.

Natural born citizen means one is NATURALLY a US citizen, according to Natural Law and the Law of Nations, because one cannot be anything else because one is born here of citizen parents.


10 posted on 01/30/2016 6:17:45 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: kathsua

He was both a natural-born Canadian subject and a natural-born US citizen. Canada and the US both allow dual citizenship. He formally rescinded his Canadian citizenship in 2014. End of story.


11 posted on 01/30/2016 6:18:53 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Campion; Cboldt

According to FReeper cboldt, 100% of case law says that.


12 posted on 01/30/2016 6:19:13 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: kathsua

I’m so glad you are at the birth to enlighten us all these years later. Cudos!


13 posted on 01/30/2016 6:19:52 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: kathsua

That nails it.


14 posted on 01/30/2016 6:20:30 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: FreedBird

As far as we know he may still officially be Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen.


15 posted on 01/30/2016 6:21:31 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

That’s only an amateur opinion. The federal courts have not ruled whether a person is naturalized or natural-born (as federal law from the 1790s says...) when one parent is a citizen and they are born on foreign soil.

“Natural born citizen” was a new term in the US Constitution. English law covers a “natural born subject” which is by definition, different.

A very good legal case can be made that natural born citizen = citizen from birth.


16 posted on 01/30/2016 6:22:03 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: kiltie65

That is my take on it. I like Cruz and gave him money before I knew that he is not qualified for the office he seeks. He would be great at pretty much any position except President or VP.


17 posted on 01/30/2016 6:23:42 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: AnalogReigns

I found this on another thread. I can’t remember who posted it. Apparently their have been some rulings pertaining to this.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/


18 posted on 01/30/2016 6:25:25 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: kathsua

Interestingly, Trump asked the crowd at one of his rallies today which was more important about Cruz, his Canadian birth or the Goldman Sachs loan he failed to disclose. Overwhelmingly the crowd thought the birthplace issue was more important.


19 posted on 01/30/2016 6:26:27 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

With the help of the Media Obama (who we still don’t know much about) was elected twice. With the help of the Media will Hillary (who we know lies to the country) be elected as President to keep the Obama legacy going? The Democratic Party runs the Media so they will continue to do what they do.


20 posted on 01/30/2016 6:27:11 PM PST by FreedBird
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