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The Metro Gun - for the Quiet Shooter
AShooting Journal ^ | 1/12/2016 | Larry Case

Posted on 01/12/2016 7:26:56 AM PST by w1n1

I believe that Browning had the traits of all great inventors. First, they are brilliant in that they can conceive an idea, then picture it and finally have the tenacity to stay with the concept until the job is done.

Let's talk about L.P. Brezny. Brezny is one of those guys who is hard to put a handle on. He hails from the windswept plains of South Dakota and is a former policeman - think old cowboy and sheriff with some trapper and mountain man thrown in. But what Brezny is first and foremost is a shooter. Everything from shotgun to long-range-rifle shooting is in his bailiwick, so much so that his books Modern Shotgunning and The Gun Digest Book of Long Range Shooting are widely read.

He has helped more than one shotgun ammunition manufacturer develop shot loads over the years, and has created his own shotgun-choke system aptly named the Dead Ringer. Most recently, Brezny has invented the Metro Gun system. "Metro Gun?" you say! "What is that?" I am so glad you asked.

Several years ago, like all great inventors ahead of their time, Brezny saw the need for a shotgun that would go easy on the ears. Urban sprawl causes tighter constrictions on where shotgunners can shoot. Often, there might be a location where one can shoot, but it would really help to keep the noise down – keeping peace with the neighbors, and all of that. Also, reducing the decibel level can increase one's success rate when hunting certain animals and birds, particularly crows. Remember the old adage that necessity is the mother of all invention? Well, Brezny needed to shoot more crows. In order to do that he needed to have a shotgun that made very little noise, so he created the Metro Gun. The Metro gun - essentially, an extra barrel attached to a shotgun - is a clever combination of silencer, suppressor, chok and recoil-managagement system.

Brezny does a lot of shooting and hunting, which includes animal-control jobs. The common crow can be a real pest in agricultural areas; ditto for feral pigeons. Shotgunning for these birds is often done in close proximity to barns, buildings, humans and livestock. One can easily see how a low-decibel shotgun would come in handy for these situations. Read the rest of the Metro gun here.


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1 posted on 01/12/2016 7:26:56 AM PST by w1n1
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I’d like to hear what ATF says about this shotgun. My guess: they will try to make it require a tax stamp, regardless of the letter of the law.

All restrictions on silencers should be repealed (along with most federal and state restrictions on our individual, God-given right to keep and bear arms).


2 posted on 01/12/2016 7:42:10 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: w1n1

Bump


3 posted on 01/12/2016 7:44:29 AM PST by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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Metro Barrel Extension Rem, Win, Browning, Beretta, Ben, Ruger, Mossberg (500) H&R, and others. $257.00


4 posted on 01/12/2016 7:47:05 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Pollster1
The Metro barrel is ported along its entire length, which allows gas to bleed off a little at a time. The Metro is so long that most of the gases are gone by the time they get to the muzzle.

I think he'll be OK.
It's not a device that "captures" the gases - it just bleeds them off through a ridiculously long barrel.

Even the knuckleheads at BATF&E should recognize that.

5 posted on 01/12/2016 7:51:18 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: w1n1
Silencerco makes a much better option for shotguns.


6 posted on 01/12/2016 7:54:02 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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I have a metro barrel system and in no way is it a “silencer”.
Does it quiet the report? Yes if you are using subsonic rounds and even then it still goes BANG. Just not as loud. Firing regular run of the mill shotgun rounds through it have little effect.
I use mine for nuisance geese control and loved the Federal subsonic goose loads( which work well on coyotes) but they discontinued production. So it is roll your own, buy Brezny’s home rolls (which is to the best I can tell illegal for waterfowl control) or shoot the lowest velocity round you can find.


7 posted on 01/12/2016 7:54:25 AM PST by lakeman (Semper Fi)
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To: grobdriver
I think he'll be OK. It's not a device that "captures" the gases - it just bleeds them off through a ridiculously long barrel.

18 USC 921(A)(4) defines a silencer as:

"any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for the use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication."

Doesn't say a thing about capturing the gasses.

8 posted on 01/12/2016 7:57:23 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Pollster1

This system has been around for many years.

nothing has been done about it.


9 posted on 01/12/2016 7:57:51 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Yo-Yo
Well in that case I guess he's screwed, then.

He might as well sell everything he owns (rather than give it to lawyers who will lose the case anyway) and report directly to Leavenworth.

10 posted on 01/12/2016 8:01:26 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: w1n1

Sounds like a nice gun for antidrone activities.


11 posted on 01/12/2016 8:01:59 AM PST by batterycommander (...Change your diaper, diaperhead. It's full of shiite.)
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News Station Puts Concealed Carry Permit Holders to the Test in Realistic ‘Good Guys’ vs. ‘Bad Guys’ Scenarios
Jan. 12, 2016 9:39am Kaitlyn Schallhorn

Active shooter situations are usually quick and surprising — so just how prepared are concealed carry holders?

WFAA-TV decided to find out. Building off the National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre’s famous statement that “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” the news station decided to put a group of “good guys” to the test and enlisted the help of Shawn Clary, a SWAT team member and tactical instructor with 22 years experience as a “bad guy.”

The good guys had myriad levels of experience. Matthew Beeman, 41, had just six hours of training; Brian Martin, 30, had 10 hours of training; Mary Bannan, 67, had 25 hours of training; and Royce Hardin, 68, had 50 hours of training.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/12/news-station-puts-concealed-carry-permit-holders-to-the-test-in-realistic-good-guys-vs-bad-guys-scenarios/


12 posted on 01/12/2016 8:17:04 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Thank you. I’m pleasantly surprised that ATF seems to be following the law.


13 posted on 01/12/2016 8:26:07 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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A friend of mine was a SEAL in Vietnam. They had shotguns with silencers on them, he said they terrified the bad guys.


14 posted on 01/12/2016 8:42:37 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: KeyLargo; Squantos; Lurker; Travis McGee; Old Sarge; marktwain
Active shooter situations are usually quick and surprising — so just how prepared are concealed carry holders?

The only marksmanship medal that really means anything:


15 posted on 01/12/2016 11:09:00 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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Active shooter situations are usually quick and surprising — so just how prepared are concealed carry holders?

Well, it's not all that concealed, but....

16 posted on 01/12/2016 11:14:14 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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It has been around for quite a while. I have one, and used it a bit. That long barrel takes a bit to get used to. You will want to use the Federal sub-sonic loads. Then it sounds about as loud as a .22


17 posted on 01/12/2016 11:26:59 AM PST by marktwain
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It has been around for quite a while. I have one, and used it a bit. That long barrel takes a bit to get used to. You will want to use the Federal sub-sonic loads. Then it sounds about as loud as a .22

That is impressive. I'd never heard of it, but I like the idea.

18 posted on 01/12/2016 12:05:32 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: archy
As a side note, I see that 10 years ago the Army developed an award for those military personnel in MOS other than 11Bravo and or Special Operators.

The Combat Action Badge, which was established by the Army in 2005, provides special recognition to soldiers, regardless of MOS and branch, who engage, or are engaged by the enemy, except that soldiers who are in units that qualify for the CIB or Combat Medical Badge, are not eligible for the CAB.

19 posted on 01/12/2016 3:05:19 PM PST by KeyLargo
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As a side note, I see that 10 years ago the Army developed an award for those military personnel in MOS other than 11Bravo and or Special Operators. The Combat Action Badge, which was established by the Army in 2005, provides special recognition to soldiers, regardless of MOS and branch, who engage, or are engaged by the enemy, except that soldiers who are in units that qualify for the CIB or Combat Medical Badge, are not eligible for the CAB.

Yep; introduced in part as an Army answer to the Navy's *Surface Combat* badge after the rest of the canoe club got jealous of Submariners' Dolphins. And many of those in the Army who qualify for the CAB prefer to dispense with it because of the can-opener on it.

And, of course, there are highly unauthorized awards that are similar but which really mean something to those who know the story.


20 posted on 01/13/2016 10:27:01 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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