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What do progressives ultimately want?
Newsday ^ | July 11, 2015 | William F. B. O'Reilly, Republican consultant

Posted on 07/12/2015 11:02:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I don't get it.

I honestly don't. Call me an idiot; declare me obtuse. I can't figure out the long game of the American left.

I've been struggling with the thought for a while. But the answer isn't forthcoming. I don't mean to insult. I'm genuinely asking for clues.

The progressive outlook seems negative. Everyone's being cheated. Everything's unfair. And offensive. Especially that.

I've lived in this country for 52 years. I never knew it was such a cynical place.

Instead of seeking ways to move the nation forward, spiritually and economically, the political left is on an inequity hunt. It wants to pave even, not build up.

It's a good electoral tactic -- convincing someone she's being cheated is a great way to get her to the polls -- but toward what ultimate goal are these identity plays? It's a tactic without a strategy, as I see it. Maybe I need edification.

Even if the world, through some miracle of tinkering, were to be made fair for a millisecond, it would be back out of balance the next. Someone's always going to be born smarter or prettier or more ambitious. Central planners can't regulate nature....

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1 posted on 07/12/2015 11:02:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The more important questions are,
1) when has a revolutionary socialist movement reached a point where they are satisfied and begin to leave people alone?

2) Look at them, listen to their words, look at their hatred for everything normal and traditional. Are you really sure they wouldn’t eliminate you IF they had the ability, and believed they would remain in power forever?


2 posted on 07/12/2015 11:13:25 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino; 2ndDivisionVet
This is one of those questions that can be responded to, but perhaps never answered

I believe the left is nothing more than the evil

In all of human kind, we have had a choice of two ... up or down, in or out, black or white, good or evil

Politics is the system of control and the purpose for control must first be answered

God wants us to have the mind of Christ and Satan wants us to have our own minds

The end came of the libs, progressives, left, and whatever is to dominate mankind

Fantasize a bit ...

What if we just said, "You know what ... you're right ... I quit, I'm yours"

WHAT would result ?

Absolute domination and the only one that wants that is Satan

Thus;

The end game of the left is absolute manifestation of evil.

3 posted on 07/12/2015 11:28:25 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don't get it. I honestly don't. Call me an idiot; declare me obtuse. I can't figure out the long game of the American left. I've been struggling with the thought for a while. But the answer isn't forthcoming. I don't mean to insult. I'm genuinely asking for clues.

This is why we lose. This guy is a Republican CONSULTANT????

Until our side, and most of America, wakes up and comes to grips on the true nature of the modern Liberal movement, we will continue to get our teeth kicked in.

The modern Liberal movement wants power and destruction. It's an entire movement of nihilists and power-hungry sociopaths.

4 posted on 07/12/2015 11:30:00 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They want most of us dead and the rest of us in chains. Next question.


5 posted on 07/12/2015 11:30:03 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They want your soul. How can that even be questioned at this point?


6 posted on 07/12/2015 11:32:16 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: DesertRhino

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin himself, if in Obama’s position, could not have done more to advance communism in this country, given the constitutional limits of the office, although Obama stretched those as well.

Look at the hate Obama has and is. There is no bi-partisan behavior at all. His way or the highway, then the lies blaming the right for obstructing. “get in the back seat and shut up”. He doesn’t just disagree. He doesn’t just dislike. He hates. And that hatred is shared by his useful idiots. It is negative. And it is evil. And there is no silver lining for Republicans. They will forever be demonized, until converted, or exterminated.

If Obama were to suddenly have total power without the constitution, there is no doubt in my mind his friend, Bill Ayer’s dream of having to put down 25 million people would absolutely justified in his opinion, to promote their ends, which should be obvious by now. Communism.


7 posted on 07/12/2015 11:38:41 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: ponygirl

As a previous poster said, this is why republicans lose, know thy enemy. The left are totalitarian communists. They desire control over everything and everyone.


8 posted on 07/12/2015 11:40:17 PM PDT by exnavy (Gun control is two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What Do Progressives Ultimately Want?

The problem is in the question, it contains a false premise. The word "ultimately" suggests finality or an end of something but in the inverted, secular, progressive world there is no end to doing good.

The wish list of progressivism is infinite not finite.

Leftists are God players and they are in politics because that arena gives them the most leverage over others to control them. They think they are doing good, that is if they believed in him they would say they are doing God's work. But subconsciously they believe that they themselves are God.

Definitionally, we conceive of God as not only omnipotent and omniscient but infinite. Leftists arrogate unto themselves all of these qualities, although they would be the very first to deny it.


9 posted on 07/12/2015 11:46:10 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is rebellion against God.

Every good thing comes from God, So, they rebel against all good things.


10 posted on 07/12/2015 11:47:24 PM PDT by donna (Polls are mob rule . . . faked.)
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To: donna

Yes they do... pray for them,,,they should see truth.


11 posted on 07/12/2015 11:53:23 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
This is why we lose. This guy is a Republican CONSULTANT????

Then there's this gem:

I wish progressive leaders could clue us in on where they're going next. <<<

Egads this has to be a bad attempt at satire.

12 posted on 07/12/2015 11:57:10 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Wildbill22

They are working on implementing bill’s plans right now.


13 posted on 07/13/2015 12:16:59 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no mystery. Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Soviet Union, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Mao’s China. They want power.


14 posted on 07/13/2015 12:17:46 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: donna

The progressive’s will not be happy until the chocolate factory is finished. Then we will be transformed into oompa loompa’s and will go about are day happily making the candy and singing and dancing, living contented in peaceful harmony, while Willy watches over us smiling and clapping.


15 posted on 07/13/2015 12:32:34 AM PDT by tmanqz66
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To: Ezekiel

Whenever I do listen to Hannity, I've heard him say several times over the years something like this:

"I think Barack Obama is a wonderful man and a patriotic American that loves his family and his country. I just disagree with his policies."

It makes my skin crawl.

Romney said the same kind of crap in 2012.

Our side needs to wake up.


16 posted on 07/13/2015 12:38:41 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They want to end America and make it into a socialist state like Colombia, Greece, and Sudan.


17 posted on 07/13/2015 12:43:43 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I don’t hear Hannity say that. He was the first person to expose Obama’s background in 2007! He went after Rev Wright. We must he hearing two different things.


18 posted on 07/13/2015 12:46:06 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

I’ve heard him say stuff like that several times.


19 posted on 07/13/2015 12:47:18 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fascism, with them at the helm. They think they can bring utopia, not least for themselves, but have no idea what hell it would be.


20 posted on 07/13/2015 12:47:32 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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