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Was Anyone At Lakewood Church Today due to the Disruption? (News only, no disparaging remarks)
Vanity ^ | 6/28/15 | Self

Posted on 06/28/2015 12:17:54 PM PDT by Jim W N

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To: Jan_Sobieski

Amen, sister!

JO is more a follower of satan than Christ and his denial of Christ speaks volumes.


41 posted on 06/28/2015 2:16:45 PM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Texas4ever

I am very sorry, but truth and love are not mutually exclusive. It is because I love that I speak the truth about Joel. If you love truth, you should see clearly that Joel Osteen is a deceiver. It is men like Joel, Rick Warren, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Pope Francis, and many others who are leading this generation to Hell. They are not preparing God’s elect for what is coming. They are laughing all the way to the bank as they fly their corporate jets to conferences and making merchandise of us all.


42 posted on 06/28/2015 2:32:12 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

If I love truth, I should trust and believe you?

They are “laughing all the way the bank”. Really?

https://www.lakewoodchurch.com/pages/pathway/jesus.aspx

This is not a conversation about God’s word any longer, it is about your distain of anyone who would dare to be successful and a Christian, regardless of their message.

What if his message is to draw the lost in by a simple message about life and hope and the joy you can have as a believer. Then when they receive the message, you invite them into your home, houses of people who know the Gospel and can share their lives and preach the Gospel on Weds, Thurs and Saturdays with food and friendship and an occasional basketball game?

Or bam! hit them over the head with Doom and gloom...repent or else heathen!

People have different styles, different ways to deliver the message, but they do lead to the cross, Jesus. Let God present the eye of the needle.


43 posted on 06/28/2015 2:52:16 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Jan_Sobieski

If I love truth, I should trust and believe you?

They are “laughing all the way the bank”. Really?

https://www.lakewoodchurch.com/pages/pathway/jesus.aspx

This is not a conversation about God’s word any longer, it is about your distain of anyone who would dare to be successful and a Christian, regardless of their message.

What if his message is to draw the lost in by a simple message about life and hope and the joy you can have as a believer. Then when they receive the message, you invite them into your home, houses of people who know the Gospel and can share their lives and preach the Gospel on Weds, Thurs and Saturdays with food and friendship and an occasional basketball game?

Or bam! hit them over the head with Doom and gloom...repent or else heathen!

People have different styles, different ways to deliver the message, but they do lead to the cross, Jesus. Let God present the eye of the needle.


44 posted on 06/28/2015 2:53:13 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Jim 0216
Jim, please contrast Joel Osteen's teaching and his many public statements against the clear light of Scripture. And then note Paul's warning to the Galations about false teachers: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." (Galations 1:8 ESV).
45 posted on 06/28/2015 3:23:08 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Texas4ever
Texas4ever, ask yourself, "did Jesus, Peter, Paul, Jeremiah, or any of the Bible Preachers preach a sermon like Joel Osteen?" The answer it NO! No matter how syrupy sweet he sounds, it is not the Gospel of Christ which saves souls! The Homosexuals are not invading Joel's Church. They are already there and very strong in number! Why? Because he comforts them in their sin!!!

As a former Texan, I will pray for you that Jesus Christ opens your eyes to the truth before it is too late.
46 posted on 06/28/2015 3:40:49 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Texas4ever; Jan_Sobieski
Jan: if you are a Christian and you are attending Lakewood Church, you need to get out. Joel Osteen is a false teacher who is leading people to hell...
1. He never talks about sin and repentance
2. If you best life can be now, why do we need heaven?
3. He calls Barack Obama a Christian and denied Jesus on National Television
4. He has publicly supported the Sodomite Mayor of Houston 5. Said Sodomites can go to heaven
6. Repeatedly denies the main focus of the Gospel
7. Consistently watered down and distorted Biblical teaching
8. Believes the purpose of human life is to glorify yourself and not God
9. Says Allah is the same as the God of the Bible
10. I have a Homosexual friend who I have tried to lead to repentance, but he moved to Joel Osteen's Church and loves it there because he says "no one judges him"
...the list goes on...

Texas: this is not true...Be careful about passing on lies...Joel Olsteen is not the problem.

It's all true and more, Texas4ever. What isn't true is that Joel Olsteen has ever been the pastor of Lakewood Church. If you don't know his last name, can you be expected to accurately understand his teaching?

47 posted on 06/28/2015 4:11:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Jim 0216

Olsteen? The motivational speaker? That’s a shame.


48 posted on 06/28/2015 4:15:00 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Tired of Taxes
How many of us just knew there’d be hecklers at some Christian service somewhere today? *raising hand*

Was one of them the tranny who heckled Obama in the Rainbow House?

49 posted on 06/28/2015 5:41:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I don’t even know how to answer this.

You all need to find peace.

I’ll pray for you :)


50 posted on 06/28/2015 8:10:21 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Alex Murphy

oh, boy. That’s kind.

Thanks. Im good


51 posted on 06/28/2015 8:11:43 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Jim 0216

Hecklers from the Church of Wells get up and yell “Joel Osteen you’re a liar”.

What’s their beef?


52 posted on 06/28/2015 9:01:45 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Says Allah is the same as the God of the Bible

He's right, linguistically speaking.

The term Allah is the exact Arabic equivalent to El and Elohim in ancient Hebrew, a closely related language. The Aramaic term Alaha, in the language Jesus spoke, is for all practical purposes identical.

It is the way the original language terms in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek are translated into Arabic.

Arabic-speaking Christians used the word for more than 500 years before Mo showed up.

Please note that I'm not saying prayers directed by Christians and Muslims go to the same being. Just that the word refers to the same Being.

Allah is not a name, it is a common noun, just like El and Elohim in Hebrew, Theos in Greek, God in English, and Бог in Russian.

53 posted on 06/29/2015 4:42:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I have this conversation with people all the time. There may have been a time when Allah was a generic term for God, but that day has definitely passed for most people that use the term Allah in the world. Joel Osteen was referring to Allah, the singular entity, moon god of the Nabataeans is the Allah that over 1 billion Muslims call the true god. This is the Allah that Mohammed worshiped and received visions from. This is the Allah that has no son, and to say so is blasphemy worthy of death.

Until you convince the over 1 Billion Muslims that there view of Allah is incorrect, it is important to make the distinction between Yahweh and Allah.
54 posted on 06/29/2015 8:48:44 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Texas4ever
Your response shows just exactly how ignorant of the things of G-d the people who sit under the teachings of this man are.

Allow me to point out 2 big errors in your comment.

1.) There is only 1 church and it is NOT “his” (joel’s) church.

The ‘Church’ is the body of The Lord Jesus and it is His Church. This is why Paul (telling Christians how the should act) says: “do not say I'm of Apollos or of Paul, For it is G-d that makes the seed grow.”

Which bring me to my second point....

2.) if you've ever read the New Testament then you would know 2/3 of it are simply letters. Letters to churches on how they should act. Further more, in Revelation 3, Jesus warns the church of His judgement because of heir deeds.

I'm assuming the “great things of God” you're referring to is “gods best” being rich and not content with what you have.
Paul actually instructs the church to be content and the 10th commandment says do not covet. Jesus warned in Matthew 13 about the “deciept of wealth” and even said you cannot serve mammon (money) and G-d. So no my friend, evangilsm is not the problem. The problem is actually the opposite. It is the lack thereof and a lack of conviction. Conviction of our sins... And do you know who bring that convictions???? The Holy Spirit. So if there is no conviction in the message you are hearing then the problem may be worse than simply the words your listening to. The benefit of this is keeping brothers and sisters accountable to Christ! All scripture is used for teaching AND rebuking! It's not used to spin it for your selfish desires.

55 posted on 06/29/2015 10:10:30 AM PDT by Sully81
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To: Tennessee Nana
Then you weren’t there when John Osteen was the pastor..

I was. Joel and John/Night and Day!

56 posted on 06/30/2015 10:08:07 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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