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The Obamacare hell that awaits you
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-31-15 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/01/2015 11:10:26 AM PDT by Starman417

obamacare hell 1

 

Obamacare was sold to America on a set of false premises. The most famous of them?

 “no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

And the fools believed him.

And he repeated that promise at least 36 times.

https://youtu.be/qpa-5JdCnmo

That promise was worth as much as any Obama assurance- absolutely nothing.

Here's another:

"If you've got health insurance through your employer, you can keep your health insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan," Mr. Obama said in his Oct. 15, 2008 debate against McCain. "The only thing we're going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed onto you. And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year."

He spit that promise out a lot.

Watch:

https://youtu.be/66bgpRRSDD4

And then Obama took the stupid pill. The BIG one.

“…your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3000% which means they could give you a raise.”

And the fools believed him.

Now Obamacare hell awaits all of us. Firstly, the rate increases.

Health Insurers Seek Hefty Rate Boosts

Major insurers in some states are proposing hefty rate boosts for plans sold under the federal health law, setting the stage for an intense debate this summer over the law’s impact.

In New Mexico, market leader Health Care Service Corp. is asking for an average jump of 51.6% in premiums for 2016. The biggest insurer in Tennessee, BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee, has requested an average 36.3% increase. In Maryland, market leader CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield wants to raise rates 30.4% across its products. Moda Health, the largest insurer on the Oregon health exchange, seeks an average boost of around 25%.

All of them cite high medical costs incurred by people newly enrolled under the Affordable Care Act.

Under that law, insurers file proposed rates to their local regulator and, in most cases, to the federal government. Some states have begun making the filings public, as they prepare to review the requests in coming weeks. The federal government is due to release its rate filings in early June.

Insurance regulators in many states can force carriers to scale back requests they can’t justify. The Obama administration can ask insurers seeking increases of 10% or more to explain themselves, but cannot force them to cut rates. Rates will become final by the fall.

  Experts see big price hikes for Obamacare

The cost of Obamacare could rise for millions of Americans next year, with one insurer proposing a 50 percent hike in premiums, fueling the controversy about just how “affordable” the Affordable Care Act really is.

The eye-popping 50 percent hike by New Mexico insurer Blue Cross Blue Shield is an outlier, and state officials may not allow it to go through. But health insurance experts are predicting that premiums will rise more significantly in 2016 than in the first two years of Obamacare exchange coverage. In 2015, for example, premiums increased by an average of 5.4 percent, according to PwC’s Health Research Institute.

The premium increases come at a tenuous time for Obamacare, which remains under fire from a Republican Congress that wants to repeal the law, while a Supreme Court ruling on federal subsidies for the health insurance looms in June as well.

“Insurers seem to be reporting higher trend, which means they are seeing bigger increases in health care costs,” said Larry Levitt, senior vice president for special initiatives at the Kaiser Family Foundation. “But really what’s going on here is they now have data showing what the risk pool looks like. Initially in 2014 they were completely guessing about who was going to enroll and how much health care they were going to use.”

Many plans haven’t yet made public their proposed rates; Monday is the deadline for publishing and providing an explanation for rate hikes of at least 10 percent. None announced so far is as dramatic as the New Mexico plan, although a few others are also quite sharp.

We here predicted this a long time ago. There is simply no way you're going to eliminate pre-existing conditions, add illegals to the rolls of free health care, add millions of new Medicare patients and lower health care costs.

Impossible.

And still the fools believed.

The left continues to produce meaningless polls showing how satisfied people are with their Obamacare. That succeeds because people still do not understand the difference between care and coverage. They may be covered but when they need care and those deductibles kick in, they're not going to be "satisfied" for long.

I wrote about that back in 2013:

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To: fwdude

“So, did you lie on your tax form?” That’s harsh. The tax code is very confusing, many of the “smartest” people in the country can make errors. I believe a US Treasuary Secretary messed his taxes up once.


21 posted on 06/01/2015 11:38:35 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: WinMod70

True, but they get to be selective about who is allowed to get confused.


22 posted on 06/01/2015 11:40:13 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Starman417
And then Obama took the stupid pill. The BIG one.
“…your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3000% which means they could give you a raise.”
And the fools believed him.

I recall when odinga was called out on FR for this mathematical impossibility. I can't recall if the msm ever mentioned it.

23 posted on 06/01/2015 11:47:44 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: Nachum

LOL, I want one!


24 posted on 06/01/2015 11:53:09 AM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: Starman417
“…your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3000% which means they could give you a raise.”

I'm really surprised more hasn't been made of this one.

25 posted on 06/01/2015 12:11:16 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Nachum

Agreed. I flip the people off that still have them on their cars. And yell if my windows open. Once saw a woman getting out of her car in the lot at the store and said to her shouldn’t you be parking in the handicap spot? Your bumper sticker says you are mentally handicapped.....


26 posted on 06/01/2015 12:20:10 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Starman417

It’s difficult to say which are the worst social political problems confronting Americans because there are simply too many. As a result of what those in DC do to us I believe one of the problems close to if not at the top is those in DC make laws for us but exempt themselves. The tax payer supported perks those in DC receive puts them in a position where they do not have to worry about the laws they pass for the rest of us. It’s time for that to change. As far as the ACA, it will likely cease once the baby boomers have all died off because it was passed just to expedite that generational die off. Although, another American hot revolution might change a few things before their planned course of action and their results are realized.


27 posted on 06/01/2015 12:20:57 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Starman417
Two things mandated by Obamacare boosted the costs. First is the one plan fits everyone. For example, seniors are paying for well baby care and childbirth though they will never use it. Second is the dropping of preexisting conditions.

Imagine if auto insurance were remolded like Obamacare. Every auto policy would have mandated coverage for RVs and motorcycles even if you did not own one and the worse drivers with multiple DUIs and numerous accidents could not be denied coverage. You don't have to be an actuary to realize that this would drive up the cost of auto insurance for everyone.

28 posted on 06/01/2015 1:18:33 PM PDT by The Great RJ (“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ

Stick a fork in America.


29 posted on 06/01/2015 1:35:49 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Starman417

The fools may have believed;the rest of us never did. If you even gave it a LITTLE thought,it made no sense.


30 posted on 06/01/2015 4:59:14 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: Starman417

The author might want to get his facts straight.

Millions of people were not added to Medicare,it was Medicaid.

Big difference


31 posted on 06/01/2015 5:09:49 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Nachum
I have this one:

32 posted on 06/02/2015 2:31:51 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel.)
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