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The Obamacare hell that awaits you
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-31-15 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/01/2015 11:10:26 AM PDT by Starman417

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Obamacare was sold to America on a set of false premises. The most famous of them?

 “no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

And the fools believed him.

And he repeated that promise at least 36 times.

https://youtu.be/qpa-5JdCnmo

That promise was worth as much as any Obama assurance- absolutely nothing.

Here's another:

"If you've got health insurance through your employer, you can keep your health insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan," Mr. Obama said in his Oct. 15, 2008 debate against McCain. "The only thing we're going to try to do is lower costs so that those cost savings are passed onto you. And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year."

He spit that promise out a lot.

Watch:

https://youtu.be/66bgpRRSDD4

And then Obama took the stupid pill. The BIG one.

“…your employer, it’s estimated, would see premiums fall by as much as 3000% which means they could give you a raise.”

And the fools believed him.

Now Obamacare hell awaits all of us. Firstly, the rate increases.

Health Insurers Seek Hefty Rate Boosts

Major insurers in some states are proposing hefty rate boosts for plans sold under the federal health law, setting the stage for an intense debate this summer over the law’s impact.

In New Mexico, market leader Health Care Service Corp. is asking for an average jump of 51.6% in premiums for 2016. The biggest insurer in Tennessee, BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee, has requested an average 36.3% increase. In Maryland, market leader CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield wants to raise rates 30.4% across its products. Moda Health, the largest insurer on the Oregon health exchange, seeks an average boost of around 25%.

All of them cite high medical costs incurred by people newly enrolled under the Affordable Care Act.

Under that law, insurers file proposed rates to their local regulator and, in most cases, to the federal government. Some states have begun making the filings public, as they prepare to review the requests in coming weeks. The federal government is due to release its rate filings in early June.

Insurance regulators in many states can force carriers to scale back requests they can’t justify. The Obama administration can ask insurers seeking increases of 10% or more to explain themselves, but cannot force them to cut rates. Rates will become final by the fall.

  Experts see big price hikes for Obamacare

The cost of Obamacare could rise for millions of Americans next year, with one insurer proposing a 50 percent hike in premiums, fueling the controversy about just how “affordable” the Affordable Care Act really is.

The eye-popping 50 percent hike by New Mexico insurer Blue Cross Blue Shield is an outlier, and state officials may not allow it to go through. But health insurance experts are predicting that premiums will rise more significantly in 2016 than in the first two years of Obamacare exchange coverage. In 2015, for example, premiums increased by an average of 5.4 percent, according to PwC’s Health Research Institute.

The premium increases come at a tenuous time for Obamacare, which remains under fire from a Republican Congress that wants to repeal the law, while a Supreme Court ruling on federal subsidies for the health insurance looms in June as well.

“Insurers seem to be reporting higher trend, which means they are seeing bigger increases in health care costs,” said Larry Levitt, senior vice president for special initiatives at the Kaiser Family Foundation. “But really what’s going on here is they now have data showing what the risk pool looks like. Initially in 2014 they were completely guessing about who was going to enroll and how much health care they were going to use.”

Many plans haven’t yet made public their proposed rates; Monday is the deadline for publishing and providing an explanation for rate hikes of at least 10 percent. None announced so far is as dramatic as the New Mexico plan, although a few others are also quite sharp.

We here predicted this a long time ago. There is simply no way you're going to eliminate pre-existing conditions, add illegals to the rolls of free health care, add millions of new Medicare patients and lower health care costs.

Impossible.

And still the fools believed.

The left continues to produce meaningless polls showing how satisfied people are with their Obamacare. That succeeds because people still do not understand the difference between care and coverage. They may be covered but when they need care and those deductibles kick in, they're not going to be "satisfied" for long.

I wrote about that back in 2013:

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1 posted on 06/01/2015 11:10:26 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Have a neighbor up the road from me (liberal with a capital L) had a bumper sticker reading “Free Healthcare For All” - now that 0bamaCare is in, that sticker is gone. Nice folks though.


2 posted on 06/01/2015 11:12:58 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: SkyDancer

Most Canadians I’ve met have been honest enough to admit that their healthcare is not “free”. They pay a boatload of taxes for it.


3 posted on 06/01/2015 11:17:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SkyDancer

I want to make a bumper sticker:

If you voted for Obama- You suck.


4 posted on 06/01/2015 11:18:14 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: SkyDancer

Neighbor must be ashamed of his/her own stupidity and doesn’t want anyone to know JUST how stupid he/she was...or else, that bumper sticker would be ‘front and center’ to this day!


5 posted on 06/01/2015 11:19:45 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Starman417
The people who voted for either Obama or Romney also have another problem.

People like me are going to jeer at them and point out to them and their loved ones that they earned what they are getting by voting for them.

I will not shut up and I will point out to their loved ones that they really, really need to focus on repealing this mess.

It isn't hate, its working to fix the problem. One hundred percent of the people who voted for the politicians who campaigned on instituting this actively helped to create the problem, and holding them accountable is the right thing to do.

Even if they are dying, and even if they are my family.

6 posted on 06/01/2015 11:20:38 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Starman417

I’ve avoided this particular hell and it was very, VERY easy:

No health insurance since Jan 1, 2014. I’ve saved a TON of money. Of course, I’m responsible for my own health - and health care. It means I rarely eat at restaurants and I had to pay every penny of my health care expenses last year out of pocket: $131.


7 posted on 06/01/2015 11:20:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Starman417
This all has to be Bush's fault - somehow.
8 posted on 06/01/2015 11:22:57 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Starman417

giving them the benefIt of the doubt:
libtards always hAve good inteNtions but are INCAPABLE OF PRODUCING THE promised END RESULT...

evluating them as they really are:
THEY ARE A BUNCH OF LYING SCUMBAGS OUT FOR TOTALITARIAN POWER AND CRUSHING FREEDOM...they buy votes with stolen taxpayer funds giving free sheet to useless pos’s...encouraging them to reproduce above the normal rate... a parasite incubaiton system that is working to erode this country...babymommas and babydaddys...words developed by this parasite class and tolerated by the silent donkey TAXPAYER... time for the taxpayer donkey to kick congress in the balls (but they dont have any)...


9 posted on 06/01/2015 11:25:42 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Starman417

The upcoming Supreme Court decision on CommieCare, if favorable, will be Obama’s saving grace. It will give him an “out” to blame it on the mean, stingy, heartless Republicans messing up his perfect plan. Otherwise, it would have worked.

And count on the GOPe “fixing” it for him.


10 posted on 06/01/2015 11:26:11 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: cuban leaf

So, did you lie on your tax form?


11 posted on 06/01/2015 11:27:18 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Most Canadians I’ve met have been honest enough to admit that their healthcare is not “free”. They pay a boatload of taxes for it.

my family in Italy is not quite that aware. They are thrilled with their "free" healthcare. Although my uncle had to wait for months to get leg surgery, and in the meantime had to walk up and down four flights of stairs to his apartment.

And that is the key point – his miniscule apartment. Miniscule by American standards. The opportunities there for jobs is stifling. If you are lucky enough to get a good paying job, then you stay in it even if you hate the work. Because there are no other opportunities. Almost everyone lives in apartments. When my cousin came over here, she couldn't believe that people had actual houses – and yards! My cousin's "bedroom" was the living room, because it was a one bedroom apartment. With no opportunity to pay for an apartment with a second bedroom. Even as it was, with a good paying job as a police officer, my uncle worked part-time selling pots and pans in the evening. And the one bedroom apartment was all they could afford.

They don't see the big picture that they are paying for this "free" healthcare by having very limited financial opportunities. They are pigeonholed into the life the government wants them to have. And in return, they get substandard "free" healthcare.
12 posted on 06/01/2015 11:27:39 AM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: SkyDancer

I don’t deem anyone “nice” who votes for a Communist.


13 posted on 06/01/2015 11:28:29 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Starman417

So, the question needs to be asked:

Where is the money going?

If it’s going to overhead because of the law’s perverse complexity, that’s one thing.

Or, is it a transfer primarily to people who were formerly picked up by Medicaid? In that case, the people who are not subsidized are picking up the cost from what was previously general taxpayer funds. But, I haven’t heard about reductions in the Medicaid area.

So, where are the extra costs going?


14 posted on 06/01/2015 11:28:39 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: fwdude

There is the 8% rule that most don’t know about. It’s hard to find info on it.

See, I’ve gone Galt. My TAXABLE income is a shadow of what it once was.


15 posted on 06/01/2015 11:29:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: SkyDancer

Nice, but stupid.


16 posted on 06/01/2015 11:29:09 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: SkyDancer

Hey, their hearts were in the right place.

They just failed to keep track of their wallets.


17 posted on 06/01/2015 11:32:48 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Starman417

Nancy Pelosi also falsified data given to the CBO to score 0bamacare prior to passage. But let alone Democrats’ lies to be rampant, even their more serious crimes are now considered ‘business as usual’.


18 posted on 06/01/2015 11:32:56 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Starman417

Have to say Roberts was right, Obamacare is a tax. It sure as hell isn’t healthcare insurance when you have a $6,000 out of pocket expense before you get a single dime of benefit.


19 posted on 06/01/2015 11:33:20 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: SkyDancer

Obamacare is the greatest EVIL ever unleashed on this country. It TAKES AWAY health insurance from productive people in order to GIVE IT AWAY to the slugs - further reducing the incentive to work.

They say millions of people who were not covered before now have coverage. But what about the MILLIONS who no longer have it? Will there be an Obamacare II to cover the many victims of Obamacare? I doubt it.

Access to health care is STILL NOT A RIGHT. It’s a convenience. If you EARN health insurance, it’s a good thing to have. But if you don’t have it, you retain the option of just living a healthy lifestyle, staying right with God - a combination that liberals cannot stand. You also have the right to treat your own ailments or pray for healing.

The non-working parasite class only “needs” health insurance because they refuse to take responsibility for their own health.

Personally, I’d rather die than accept Obamacare. The death panel would probably just euthanize me, anyway. Older, white, conservative Christians just don’t “meet the criteria” for aggressive care.


20 posted on 06/01/2015 11:36:54 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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