Posted on 05/22/2015 8:35:39 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
In truth, they came to remember a hope and a dream. And all across the South hundreds of thousands heard that train
Why is the proud history of the South being attacked?
Did you read about students at a Texas University who want a statue of Jefferson Davis removed from the campus?
A beloved Southern President was laid to rest on Memorial Day.
Listen closely, when the wind blows, and you may hear a train whistle from the distance.
Many songs have been written about the passenger trains. On Sunday, May 28, 1893, a few days before Memorial Day, a story began in New Orleans, Louisiana that overshadowed all other events reported in the newspapers of the north and south.
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And so the Leftists continue to abuse people today with high taxes, multiculturalism, and racist lies. All to keep the people from building better lives for themselves. The real enemy of the Left is the bourgeoisie - the self made middle class. The Left seeks power over others, they fear and hate people, and themselves.
Weep not for Jefferson Davis but for the thousands of lives his power lust destroyed.
You will never understand.
Jefferson Davis was and is a scape goat-— They turned him into a traitor even if what he did was constutional. Maybe we need more men like him in our day and age. During the Civil War he was not that popular by the people of the south—but when emprisoned and abused by the victorious North—he became a symbol.
There was nothing constitutional about what he did or how he did it. He earned the term traitor (even if he wasn't convicted of the offense).
Jeff Davis is directly responsible for the deaths of 750,000 Americans. That fact can never be rationalized away.
Davis fought bravely in the Mexican War, but he was just one of many colonels of volunteers. He fought in what turned out to be the dead-end sideshow of the invasion of North Mexico. The war was won by invading Central Mexico via Veracruz.
In 1893 he had been dead for several years—he died on Dec. 6, 1889. I had a great-aunt who was born on the day that Jefferson Davis died (she lived until 1976). I never asked her what she thought of Jefferson Davis (she had one grandfather who was a Union soldier and one grandfather who was a Confederate soldier).
Haven’t read that book. Davis turning back a Mexican assault at Buena Vista may have prevented an American defeat. Given that this American army was sort of hanging in the air, a defeat might very well have become a rout and the army been destroyed.
The political implications of an American army being annihilated or captured in northern Mexico are interesting to contemplate. One obvious effect is that Taylor would not have been elected President. Davis would not have returned to MS as a war hero, if returning at all, so he would not have become senator then CSA president. Quite possibly, the US might not have invaded through Veracruz. It might have backed off from the war and taken less if any Mexican territory, which leaves less cause for conflict between the sections.
Davis’ regiment was the first outfitted with rifles rather than muskets, making it a good deal more effective. The Mississippi rifle apparently didn’t use the minie ball, but I’ve been unable to find anything about how it handled the old complaints about muzzle-loading rifles being slow to load and tending to foul, etc.
But I think it’s indisputable that Lee made a far greater contribution to the winning of the war than Davis.
Untrue. Before the war, all the slave states were generally considered part of "the south."
Five of those southern states stayed in the Union, willingly or not. But that didn't make the people of MO, KY, MD, WV and DE yankees.
In most of these states, slavery didn't remain legal "all through the war."
MO freed all slaves in January, 1865.
Maryland freed its slaves in November, 1864.
West Virginia passed gradual emancipation in March, 1863 and immediate emancipation in February, 1865.
Of the Union states, slavery remained legal only in DE and KY when the war ended. Only these slaves were directly freed by 13A, as all others were previously freed by the Emancipation Proclamation or state action, sometimes puppet state governments.
Polk had tried to buy California from Mexico before the war. On Jan. 24, 1848, gold was discovered in California, touching off the gold rush. The huge influx of non-Mexicans into California would have made it impossible for Mexico to hold on to California, which they had already only a feeble control of. Perhaps the Americans in California would have set up an independent republic (as they briefly did—the Bear Flag Republic) and asked to be annexed by the US.
Quite possible.
Quite possible.
When South Carolina ratified the amendment in November 1865, it issued its own interpretive declaration that "any attempt by Congress toward legislating upon the political status of former slaves, or their civil relations, would be contrary to the Constitution of the United States".[74]
[75] Alabama and Louisiana also declared that their ratification did not imply federal power to legislate on the status of former slaves.[76]
[77] During the first week of December, North Carolina and Georgia gave the amendment the final votes needed for it to become part of the Constitution.
The Thirteenth Amendment became part of the Constitution on December 6, 1865, based on the following ratifications:[78] Illinois — February 1, 1865
Rhode Island — February 2, 1865
Michigan — February 3, 1865
Maryland — February 3, 1865
New York — February 3, 1865
Pennsylvania — February 3, 1865
West Virginia — February 3, 1865
Missouri — February 6, 1865
Maine — February 7, 1865
Kansas — February 7, 1865
Massachusetts — February 7, 1865
Virginia — February 9, 1865
Ohio — February 10, 1865
Indiana — February 13, 1865
Nevada — February 16, 1865
Louisiana — February 17, 1865
Minnesota — February 23, 1865
Wisconsin — February 24, 1865
Vermont — March 8, 1865
Tennessee — April 7, 1865
Arkansas — April 14, 1865
Connecticut — May 4, 1865
New Hampshire — July 1, 1865
South Carolina — November 13, 1865
Alabama — December 2, 1865
North Carolina — December 4, 1865
Georgia — December 6, 1865
Having been ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states—27 of the 36 states (including those that had been in rebellion), Secretary of State Seward, on December 18, 1865, certified that the Thirteenth Amendment had become valid, to all intents and purposes, as a part of the Constitution.[79] Included on the enrolled list of ratifying states were the three ex-confederate states that had given their assent, but with strings attached. Seward accepted their affirmative votes, brushed aside their interpretive declarations without comment, challenge or any acknowledgment at all.[80]
The Thirteenth Amendment was subsequently ratified by:[78]
Oregon — December 8, 1865
California — December 19, 1865
Florida — December 28, 1865 (Reaffirmed – June 9, 1869)
Iowa — January 15, 1866
New Jersey — January 23, 1866 (After rejection – March 16, 1865)
Texas — February 18, 1870
Delaware — February 12, 1901 (After rejection – February 8, 1865)
Kentucky — March 18, 1976[81] (After rejection – February 24, 1865)
Mississippi — March 16, 1995; Certified – February 7, 2013[82] (After rejection – December 5, 1865)
The Thirteenth Amendment became part of the Constitution 61 years after the Twelfth Amendment. This is the longest interval between constitutional amendments.[83]
June 15, 1864 - The House of Representatives initially defeated the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 93 in favor, 65 opposed, and 23 not voting, which is less than the two-thirds majority needed to pass a Constitutional Amendment.
December 6, 1864 - Abraham Lincoln's Fourth Annual Message to Congress was printed in the Congressional Globe: "At the last session of Congress a proposed amendment of the Constitution, abolishing slavery throughout the United States, passed the Senate, but failed for lack of the requisite two-thirds vote in the House of Representatives. Although the present is the same Congress, and nearly the same members, and without questioning the wisdom or patriotism of those who stood in opposition, I venture to recommend the reconsideration and passage of the measure at the present session."
January 31, 1865 - The House of Representatives passed the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 119 to 56. April 8, 1864 - The Senate passed the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 38 to 6.
June 15, 1864 - The House of Representatives initially defeated the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 93 in favor, 65 opposed, and 23 not voting, which is less than the two-thirds majority needed to pass a Constitutional Amendment.
December 6, 1864 - Abraham Lincoln's Fourth Annual Message to Congress was printed in the Congressional Globe: "At the last session of Congress a proposed amendment of the Constitution, abolishing slavery throughout the United States, passed the Senate, but failed for lack of the requisite two-thirds vote in the House of Representatives. Although the present is the same Congress, and nearly the same members, and without questioning the wisdom or patriotism of those who stood in opposition, I venture to recommend the reconsideration and passage of the measure at the present session."
January 31, 1865 - The House of Representatives passed the 13th Amendment (S.J. Res. 16) by a vote of 119 to 56.
February 1, 1865 - President Abraham Lincoln signed a Joint Resolution submitting the proposed 13th Amendment to the states.
December 18, 1865 - Secretary of State William Seward issued a statement verifying the ratification of the 13th Amendment.
The text of the 13th Amendment can be found the United States Statutes at Large, volume 13, page 567 (13 Stat. 567).
February 1, 1865 - President Abraham Lincoln signed a Joint Resolution submitting the proposed 13th Amendment to the states.
December 18, 1865 - Secretary of State William Seward issued a statement verifying the ratification of the 13th Amendment.
The text of the 13th Amendment can be found the United States Statutes at Large, volume 13, page 567 (13 Stat. 567).
4 of the states which ratified before Lincoln’s death were Southern states which had seceded—so those would be Reconstruction legislatives set up under Lincoln’s rules, I would guess (other than Virginia which was a special case). Congress had already shown it wanted more stringent rules for who could participate (Wade-Davis Bill, 1864, which did not become law...and has no connection to the MLB pitcher Wade Davis), so some of those 4 may be legislatures that Congress later declared no good. Of course their ratification of the 13th amendment still counted.
The four states that ratified in Nov. and Dec. 1865 were presumably operating with legislatures set up under Andrew Johnson’s guidelines, similar to Lincoln’s...later deemed not proper legislatures by Congress.
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