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The Conservative victory in the UK augurs well for Republicans in 2016
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-21-15 | Robert H. Lee

Posted on 05/21/2015 9:33:12 AM PDT by Starman417

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The British center right party, the Conservatives, won a stunning victory upsetting all predictions of a hung Parliament. This makes the US the exception in the English speaking world of being the only government headed by a leftist, Barack Obama (whom I shall call oBUMa from now on).

John Key (New Zealand), Tony Abbott (Australia), Stephen Harper (Canada) and of course David Cameron (UK) are all leaders of center right parties and Prime Ministers of their countries. Will the growing conservative tide from across the Atlantic surge to the US?

The Conservative victory in the UK was stunning because for months, the Conservative Party and the centre left Labour Party were neck and neck in the polls. What made the victory even more amazing was the strong showing of UKIP, an even more conservative (with a small ‘c’) party which won 12.6% of the votes. If you add that to the Conservative Party’s 36.9%, you get 49.5% of conservative (with a small ‘c’) votes. There are some striking similarities (as well as differences such as gay marriage, which Cameron signed into law) in the politics in both the US and UK. The two most common and burning issues in both countries are:

1) Immigration.

2) The debate about growing the pie vs dividing the pie equally.

1) Immigration

The UK, like the US is awashed with immigrants at a time when a lot of people are not working. * In the US as in the UK, people who objected to unchecked immigration are labelled bigots. In the UK, most of the immigrants are legal  and from other European Union (EU) countries. In the case of the US, the problem is the illegal immigrants coming from Mexico. The Democrats, sensing an opportunity to gain Hispanic votes for decades want to grant them amnesty;

In the UK, the question of immigration is tied up with EU membership which allows untrammeled immigration from EU countries. The anti-immigration party is UKIP which wants to stop immigration by withdrawing from the EU altogether. Many Conservative Members of Parliament (MP) also feel that way and some even defected to the UKIP. Cameron made a last ditch appeal to UKIP supporters to “come home” to the Conservative Party.

They see their country’s traditions and identity being eroded. If you take a ride on the London Underground, you will hear a gaggle of foreign languages ranging from Hindi to Urdu, to Arabic, to Polish, to Greek to Spanish. David Cameron has promised to renegotiate with the EU to allow the UK to control their borders and to hold a referendum on British membership in the EU. In both countries, those who seek to maintain the cultural identity of their country and oppose uncontrolled immigration were accused of bigotry or racism.

2) The debate about growing the economic pie vs dividing the pie equally

Labor, the center left party in the UK, like the Democrats has been banging the drum of class warfare and social justice. They campaigned on higher taxes on bankers’ bonuses and a ‘mansion tax. This will pay for a guaranteed job program and greater health care spending. Labour has always portrayed the Conservatives as “heartless”.

This image stuck and even the Conservatives’ coalition partner, the Liberal Democrats agreed. Conservatives (or Tories as they are called in the UK), with their drastic cuts in government spending to balance the budget was seen as the “party of the rich” just as the Republican Party is in the US.

It is no wonder that the polls were wrong. All these accusations by opinion makers in the universities, news media made people afraid to tell the pollsters the truth. This phenomena of the “shy Tory” led to a serious under-estimate of their support.

The problem is that the cultural elite in Britain as in America are leftists who view their opponents as morally inferior to themselves. For example, Rebecca Roache, a lecturer of Philosophy at the University of London and formerly a researcher at the University of Oxford unfriended her Conservative friends in her Facebook. She said this in her blog:

So, unfriending. Is it okay? Well, the view that I have arrived at today is that openly supporting a political party that—in the name of austerity—withdraws support from the poor, the sick, the foreign, and the unemployed while rewarding those in society who are least in need of reward, that sells off our profitable public goods to private companies while keeping the loss-making ones in the public domain, that boasts about cleaning up the economy while creating more new debt than every Labour government combined, that wants to scrap the Human Rights Act and (via the TTIP) hand sovereignty over some of our most important public institutions to big business—to express one’s support for a political party that does these things is as objectionable as expressing racist, sexist, or homophobic views.

As in America, leftists have this feeling they are morally superior to those who disagree with. They are incapable of saying "let us be friends, even though we disagree".  So it is no wonder that the Tories are shy. They learned to keep their mouths shut in social gatherings to avoid losing their friends. This habit seems to have carried forward to answering poll questions.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cameron; conservative; uk

1 posted on 05/21/2015 9:33:12 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
Not if this guy is the nominee.


2 posted on 05/21/2015 9:39:39 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Starman417

Only if the nominee is Cruz or Walker.

An amnesty candidate is what the RNC owes to the Cheap Labor Express and what they intend to deliver.

If they get their amnesty candidate, they will have nominated another designated loser like Romney and McCain.


3 posted on 05/21/2015 9:42:57 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Starman417

No it doesn’t. The only reason the Conservatives won is because the SNP split off from Labour, effectively taking Scotland out of the majority calculus.

Plus, now Cameron faces a split within the Conservatives as London Cons— led by Boris Johnson, mayor of London and the only real successor to Cameron — fight to keep the UK in the EU. If that fails, London as a financial center will immediately compete with Frankfurt, not New York.

Cameron promised action on immigration and a vote on EU membership. He’s got to deliver and in a way that doesn’t split his party. He’ll be lucky to run the gauntlet for this 5 years without facing a no confidence vote.


4 posted on 05/21/2015 9:44:16 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Starman417

The premise in the title is incorrect. “republicans” today have very little to do with “comservative”...the two terms are non interchangeable.


5 posted on 05/21/2015 10:10:25 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: Starman417

No.

Conservatives there are very different from Conservatives here.


6 posted on 05/21/2015 10:19:54 AM PDT by sakic
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To: jimbo123

He will not be the nominee. He is not doing so well.


7 posted on 05/21/2015 1:13:01 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Starman417

The British public has already had a taste of how awful Socialism can be.

Ours has not. Hence I suspect, as Churchill said, we are going to try all of the alternatives before doing the right thing.


8 posted on 05/21/2015 2:07:39 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ameribbean expat

I agree. I think the Conservative victory in the UK is more down to local issues that either have no or a different emphasis in the US. I dont think the SNP split from labour was one of them though. The conservatives have little strength in Scotland. They would have won even if Labour didnt lose 40+ scottish seats.


9 posted on 05/23/2015 1:29:47 AM PDT by Vanders9
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