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What we know so far about the pilot and co-pilot of Germanwings FL 4U9525
Various tweets found on twitter copied by twitchy.com ^ | March 26, 2015

Posted on 03/26/2015 5:10:37 AM PDT by KeyLargo

What we know so far about the pilot and co-pilot of Germanwings FL 4U9525; Update: French prosecutor says co-pilot intentionally destroyed the airplane Posted at 7:17 am on March 26, 2015 by Twitchy Staff

After last night’s bombshell report from the New York Times alleging that either the co-pilot or pilot had been locked out of the cockpit of Germanwings flight 4U9525 immediately prior to its crash, many on Twitter are asking about the identity and nationality of the co-pilot and pilot.

However Lufthansa, the parent company of Germanwings, won’t tell us. From the AP:

Lufthansa chief executive Carsten Spohr described the pilots as “experienced and trained” in a press conference in Barcelona Wednesday night.

Lufthansa has refused to identify the pilots, or give details of ages and nationality, but it said the co-pilot joined Germanwings in September 2013, directly after training, and had flown 630 hours.

The captain had more than 6,000 hours of flying time and been Germanwings pilot since May 2014, having previously flown for Lufthansa and Condor, Lufthansa said.

But it looks like German media sources are reporting at least the first names of the pilots:

And Le Monde is reporting that it was the co-pilot who was locked out:

We’ll update this post as we learn more information.

Update. Here’s a video of the “cockpit door entry procedure” that explains how a pilot would be able to lock himself inside the cockpit:

Update 2. French prosecutors say co-pilot was at the controls:


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: airbus; fl4u9525; france; germanwings; germany; lubitz; lufthansa; wot
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1 posted on 03/26/2015 5:10:37 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

His name is Andreas Lubitz. Convert? No praising of the Devil before descent.


2 posted on 03/26/2015 5:13:30 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: KeyLargo

Lufthansa chief executive Carsten Spohr described the pilots as “experienced and trained”

That’s what people are afraid of...


3 posted on 03/26/2015 5:14:18 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: KeyLargo

A Purser’S Airbus Cockpit EMERGENCY Access Procedure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHxv7bsqbxA

“Co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, a 28-year-old German national, was silent ...”


4 posted on 03/26/2015 5:16:43 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: MichaelCorleone

“experienced and trained”

...by a local Imam.

/s/

IMHO


5 posted on 03/26/2015 5:17:32 AM PDT by ripley
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To: KeyLargo

his parents must be real proud /sarc


6 posted on 03/26/2015 5:18:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: KeyLargo

Only to point out the obvious...thirty years ago, the vast number of pilots in a limited passenger world had some military background (US, Japan, Canada, France, UK, etc). Flight service boomed in the 80s and 90s, throughout the world.

Airlines are pretty much left to a very small group of folks to recruit from now. You need to pass the physical and have your certification. Beyond that...there’s not much of a mental exam or check-out.

In this case, we probably won’t find one single bit of evidence leading to some Muslim ideology...so we end up with some nutcase who they hired and simply didn’t review for any mental issues.

This would lead you to this prospective....how many more nutcases are there...out of 100,000 pilots around the civilized world? One, five, twenty? At some point, you start to question your life and the trust you might put in some airline to safely get you from point A to point B.


7 posted on 03/26/2015 5:18:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: miss marmelstein

This appears....so far....to be a suicide of a non-muslim.


8 posted on 03/26/2015 5:18:27 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker/Cruz 2016)
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To: miss marmelstein

“His name is Andreas Lubitz. Convert?”

Maybe. Or just a guy with a death wish.


9 posted on 03/26/2015 5:18:33 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: KeyLargo

Passengers should demand to know religion of pilots and crew before boarding. Then if any are Muslim they can refuse to fly.


10 posted on 03/26/2015 5:18:42 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Actually a suicide/mass murder. He could have jumped off an Alp and saved a lot of lives. Why didn’t he?


11 posted on 03/26/2015 5:20:04 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: KeyLargo

Why would we not assume that the flight attendant called the pilot out, entered the cockpit and killed the other co-pilot and crashed the plane?


12 posted on 03/26/2015 5:20:22 AM PDT by anton
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To: miss marmelstein

He was mean.


14 posted on 03/26/2015 5:22:15 AM PDT by Rumierules
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To: KeyLargo

Which probably means whoever was in the cockpit was blocking it from unlocking.


15 posted on 03/26/2015 5:22:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pepsionice

It may well be that this guy was just a fruitcup that went over the edge and decided to end it all and take 150 or so others with him. Pretty awful.


16 posted on 03/26/2015 5:22:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: KeyLargo

Co-P needs to be officially declared a murderer and his home needs to be secured ASAP.
Hope its not considered work place violence?


17 posted on 03/26/2015 5:23:44 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: KeyLargo

Who would expect someone named “Keith Ellison” to be a Muslim?

What about someone named “Andreas Lubitz”?


18 posted on 03/26/2015 5:24:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: KeyLargo

630 hours in that type of aircraft isn’t squat.


19 posted on 03/26/2015 5:25:01 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: for-q-clinton

“Passengers should demand to know religion of pilots...”
It would also be nice to know it either of the pilots were suicidal......
On another note: Back in the 70s when airlines made the decision to bring the cockpit crew minimum from 3 to 2, this problem was foreseen by many as a recipe for disaster. Bottom dollar wins again.


20 posted on 03/26/2015 5:25:45 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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