Posted on 03/18/2015 9:54:43 AM PDT by cleghornboy
In a post which may be found here, Father Robert McTeigue, SJ writes: "Very often, I hear folks speak of mercy as if it were a cancellation of justice. On this view, “justice” means, “you have to pay off your debt—or else.” “Mercy”, then, says, “About that debt—never mind!” And who wouldn’t breathe a sigh of relief when told that one’s debt has been dismissed, made irrelevant? That’s an appealing, even tempting image of justice and mercy, especially if you’ve ever been deeply in debt. Unfortunately, such a view tragically distorts justice and mercy. If left uncorrected, such a view runs the risk of making us unable to see or feel what is, to borrow a phrase from C.S. Lewis, “the weight of glory.” In other words, the roots of human dignity and the very character of God may be obscured by such a facile, beguiling, and impoverished view of mercy and justice."
While there are so many good and faithful priests who do preach on the reality of sin and the need for reconciliation, there are also many who have no love for the souls under their care. As a consequence, these priests neglect the souls entrusted to them and make no attempt to stress the reality of sin and the need for ongoing conversion.
For such priests and their deluded followers, Jesus was little more than a moronic hippy who traveled the countryside preaching non-judgmentalism (who am I to judge*) and a "peace and joy" which includes putting out the welcome mat for any sort of evil or perversion.
(Excerpt) Read more at lasalettejourney.blogspot.com ...
The "mercy" program of Cardinal Kasper is founded upon the sin of presumption.
Nice.
I concur with the first paragraph of the article from Fr. McTigue, and blew off the frontal assault on the miniscule number of existing disparaged “hippie” priests. Never seen one, myself. I can’t confirm they even do exist in any number.
But yes, Holy Church need no lectures from the pile-on crowd on the attempted perversions of virtue, faith, dogma, doctrine, Tradition, tradition and practice from perverters, either from within or without. After all, it has been stirring the Church from the beginning.
Notice...nearly all of the Catholic claims to authority reside in quotations from a catechism, a writer, a “priest”, a magazine, or a speech. Few, if any, reference the Bible. This bizarre thread needs a great deal of input from the Bible, but I doubt that interests the writer.
I agree it is bizarre. If we have forgiveness, then our debts are paid, and there is no more justice to be satisfied. Saying that some additional payment is required from us is to deny that the payment already made by Christ was sufficient.
The false conception of mercy which is seeping into the Body of Christ from the top down is a danger to souls.
Fr. McTeigue:
“...The mercy at work at Calvary, and its message of hope revealed at Easter, will be triumphant only if we accept the full horror and glory of its blood-soaked nature. Only the Cross of Christ could prove decisively that mercy is free but not cheap, that the moral order cannot be eradicated, and that God’s love, paradoxically, is both resistible and undeniable. Mercy is rightly received and ratified not by treating it as divine permission to persist in sin and the illusion that sin can ever be without consequence, but only when we treat this underserved second chance as our opportunity to love the goodness of God and hate our own evil that would separate us from Him. Divine mercy, expressed at the terrible cost of the violent death of God’s Only Begotten Son, is worthily received when we choose to repent of the sin we could not get free of on our own. The proof that God’s mercy was not wasted upon us is shown when we live our gratitude for mercy by striving after holiness with zeal and joy...”
http://www.aleteia.org/en/religion/news/lent-a-time-of-blood-soaked-mercy-5780783721611264?page=2
Thanks for posting. If there’s one thing religion needs to guard against, it’s mercy. Mercy wrecks the whole system - just imagine people treating each other with mercy, what a catastrophe! No, like the worst drugs, people need to understand that mercy is only acceptable and safe under the strictest and narrowest of conditions, otherwise it’s a killer best left far, far away from good people, lest it rot their souls and turn them to evil.
Someone else, Christ had to pay your debt.. it to Christ Glory and your Shame that someone else had to pay your debt...
So it not open tab for you to run up debt on Christ to pay
Just because you don't have to pay does not mean it does not have to be paid.. it does get payed, by Christ ever day
So if you say you love Christ... why do you stick him with a tab everyday to pay for you..he is on that cross ever day..and your sticking him ever day causing just that much more pain
Their catechism is their bible...
So if you say you love Christ... why do you stick him with a tab everyday to pay for you..he is on that cross ever day..and your sticking him ever day causing just that much more pain
That's man's wisdom, not God's wisdom nor bible teaching...
Mat_28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Heb_10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Jesus paid the price, once for all, for all time...Jesus is not suffering daily, or at all...
Thank you for your remarks. It is upon this misunderstanding that the Romanist cult has built its monumental edifice of error. Layer upon layer of additives to the "...payment already made by Christ" has built them a house of cards that will eventually topple to their destruction...as God has left the scales upon their eyes.
Indeed...
Christ said “It is finished”, so I don’t think he is perpetually tormented every day. 1 Peter 3:18 also says:
“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins...”
He suffered (past tense) once (one time) for sins. Not many times, over and over.
That is silly. Just because Christ’s payment was sufficient, that doesn’t give us license to sin. To make that equation, one must have a desire to keep on sinning, which means you are unregenerated in your spirit, and probably not covered by Christ’s payment in the first place.
Straining toward Heaven is very humbling and thankfully it is certainly eased by Mercy, Himself, in the Sacrament of Confession and Penance, and the Holy Eucharist. Our colloquial version of mercy is being tested and our understanding is key.
It is hard to understand what we don’t know. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”, is epidemic both in and out of the Church.
Even though I
“Huh? so now only some people are covered by Christ’s death, not everyone?”
Well, yes and no. No, in that Christ’s payment is sufficient to pay the debt owed by each and every man that ever lived. Yes, in that not all will receive Christ’s grace, and without that grace, you must be judged on your own works.
“Who decides who is covered and who isn’t?”
God.
“Were Mormons the correct answer?”
I think we can safely say “no” to that one.
“If you’re going to try to argue that Christ’s death is full and final payment for our sins, you can’t really argue that it only applies to some people.”
Sure I can.
“Christ came for everyone, not just the Mormons.”
Yes, but sadly, many reject him.
“And what about people that don’t believe, but still lived a ‘good’ life?”
Nobody lives a good life. All of us sin, and fall short, and require salvation.
“Just because they were born into the wrong religion or before Jesus was around? What about them?”
God is a loving God, fair and merciful. When Christ died, he went and preached to those who had already died, so they could have an opportunity to hear the Gospel. I trust that God will similarly give everyone such an opportunity, one way or another.
This is foolish statement. The Books in the Bible did not fall from the skies. They were assembled by the Catholic Church in the Synod of Rome in 382AD It helps to understand theological history before you rush in where angels fear to tread.
Until the curse of the Reformation, eleven centuries later, we had (and continue to have ) ONE Church proclaiming, as it did when the books in the Bible were assembled infallibly, ONE truth.
That infallibility did not evaporate into ether because of the nonsense of Luther’s writings, contradicted by Calvin, and remade by Wesley. Who next? Another Jim Jones or Benny Hinn?
We do not need the multiple and conflicting “truths” of every brand and sub-brand of Protestantism (from Billy Graham to David Koresh and Jeremiah Wright) that are now collapsing and drying up like wild mushrooms when even preeminent Protestant theologians are decamping and converting to Catholicism.
Catholics have a single Truth as reflected in the Credo and the Catholic Catechism.
Very true. Thank God for priests like Fr. McTeigue who communicate the teachings of the Church in a clear manner.
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