Posted on 02/06/2015 4:09:18 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
People lined up to a length of 100 meters in front of the "Ural" militias. Those with cars bear all they can, but on the way out of the city on foot are all those who did not have enough space in a car. Most people have no idea where they will spend the next night. And many simply have nowhere to go, but you cannot stay longer in the city- remains an hour before the end of the evacuation remained one hour.
At the crossroads of the broken ground are MAT/APU, all over the field stick shells from the "Hurricane", along the road are broken tanks. Rare cars drive up from Gorlovki, drivers are asked whether it is possible to drive into town and pick up relatives. There is no mobile phone communication in the city. Many are beyond nerves, women cry. About 12:0 hours, a shooting battle begins and the flow of cars and pedestrians ends. Road is empty. In the city, there are still people. Mostly the elderly and the disabled remain.
So much for the glamorization of “bugging out” that read on all the survival forums and blogs.
I am going to remember these Souls in my prayers today.
Preppers PING!!!
This is the reality of a bugout. Take it to heart and Plan, practice and plan and then create a plan B and a plan C.
It is so heartbreaking. I have beautiful embroidered clothes made in the Ukraine and used to love to join their communities during Christmas time.
God bless them and keep them.
Thanks for posting.
The best time to bug out is 2-3 years before the crisis. I think everyone expects the last minute exodus to be a terrible experience.
Refugees from Debaltseve wait for buses in Artemivsk to escape the pro-Russain rebels shelling on Feb. 5, 2015.
Feb 3, 2015...Buses bring evacuees to Sloviansk - but many others in the conflict zone do not want to leave home
I’m already bugged out ‘up and out’ in the mountains.....but there is nothing glamorous about it at all, (Except for the views!), really. I just would rather live up here than anywhere near a big city for any number of reasons. Each to his own. (Most ‘bug outs’ might/could not happen anyway if one believes the Fed’s plan to comp. shut down major roads leading out of the large population centers.) We shall see I guess.
I’m thankful to be in a warm, nice home with every convenience as I look at those pictures. There are so many people displaced across this world, trying to stay alive.
There’s so little left in the East now....which was part of the plan. This moves the people the Russians into Russia...and leaves those in Ukraine who want to remain Ukrainian...thus the Gov. no longer has to contend with the Russians people as before...and why there is now no representation in the Kiev Government. There is no longer any Russian “vote”.
Meanwhile destroying the East infastructure which will open the way, once this is over, for the International Corporate entities to come in to rebuild these in order to accomodate the foreigner investors and workers who will relocate there to do the work...which will be developing (robbing) Ukraine of it’s ‘resources’..... Thus the cash flow will come into Kiev via IMF and World Bank and circle thru to these Corporate giants.....with the Oligarch’s shaving off their share as the middle men...just as before.
The people’s lives will remain largely the same because they are now a debtor nation...they will owe and owe and owe.
there won’t be any bugging out for alot of people, we’ll stand, and die where we are.
This is not a bug out. This is an evacuation. In the time line of mobility, an evacuation occurs just before the shooting. Once the shooting starts, the only option left is bug in.
Bugging out, if done properly, occurs no later than the arrival of local militia / military and before they are able to set up control points. Ideally it should be done sooner. When the normal social order starts to collapse and lawlessness begins to show it’s head.
Some indicators for the need to bug out are:
- police no longer patrolling
- ATM machines being ransacked
- long lines at the food stores
- runs on the hardware stores
- looting / robbing of the outdoor / outfitter stores
- runs on medical supplies
- runs on gasoline / diesel
- banking services restricted or banks not open
Pastor Sergey Kosyak Feb 7th 2:37 a.m.
“Here is the first trouble in well-established pattern of evacuation. Today all of our buses are not allowed to Majorske, because of the fighting. A bit of standing at a checkpoint around which all sides were heard volleys of shells, people couldn’t stand and so tensed nerves got panic. Drivers with nothing left to do, like go back to Gorlovka. People preferred to bomb shelters again, I understand them when they shoot really scary, especially not armored transport.
Now I pray, from Donetsk, too, came out of our buses, this sample is the first major group of evacuation from the city. I am waiting for messages from drivers to ...
Do good is possible.”
BTW...your map isn't helpful when it's not in English.
Here are some arriving in Poland...Refugees exit an airplane to be assisted with issues such as customs clearance, and will be escorted by a military convoy to special lodging facilities near the northern Polish city of Malbork.
Vuhlehirsk and Debaltseve, the sites of a fierce fighting between Donbas fighters and Ukraine army, have become dead cities.... There is no civilian population left as about 80% of their residents have been evacuated, ZIK correspondent reports Feb. 7.
Izvaryne and Debaltseve are the hottest spots now. Concentration of troops at Izvaryne... Attacks expected Sun-Mon
They’ve been evacuating the area for a couple weeks now...in fact both sides ceased fire Friday to get the rest out who wanted to leave.
Looks about 6,000 estimated remain in the two cities...and expected attacks Sunday or Monday.
Not sure why some stay when they’ve arranged places for them to stay . Maybe some won’t leave their homes....even Kiev has been having trouble keeping the peace in the city.
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