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Beware Putin’s Special War in 2015
The 20 Committee ^ | 12/23/14 | staff

Posted on 12/24/2014 5:11:32 PM PST by Nachum

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To: Nachum

If it is the oil price that is wreaking so much havoc on the Russian economy, what would happen if Pooty Poot let a nuke slip through his fingers into the hands of one of the players in the Middle East?


21 posted on 12/24/2014 6:42:47 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: no-to-illegals
one more question ... Does the U.S. of A. set the price of oil?

What do you think.

22 posted on 12/24/2014 7:01:09 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Russia produces more oil than SA.

Have found the solution to russia's economic woes ... LOL ... russia will have to cut their oil production level ... but of course that will not work either ... kind of a vicious cycle ... that oil market. Up, Down, Inside, Outside and then everyone wants to control the price of all the oil. Oil, the engine of all major economies. Oil supplies the engine that feeds, clothes and supplies some semblance of wealth for many of the planet's inhabitants. Sometimes the Free Market just cannot be defeated ... Thank Goodness. Am looking forward to the day though when meat can be fed oil. Maybe the price of meat will go down?!?

23 posted on 12/24/2014 7:06:03 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
I forgot to post the links...

Russia Crude Oil Production

Saudi Arabia Crude Oil Production

24 posted on 12/24/2014 7:12:44 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Good post .... Ever wonder whom is lying?


25 posted on 12/24/2014 7:15:29 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Natural Gas Production
26 posted on 12/24/2014 7:15:41 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Nachum

Russia could have focused more on producing many other things, but leaders there focused too exclusively on oil.


27 posted on 12/24/2014 8:44:07 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The Kremlin has successfully established important, multilayered agent-of-influence networks in NATO countries, as I've explained previously, and the current political ferment in Europe offers Putin an inroads there that Russia has not enjoyed since the early years of the Cold War. Moscow has long supported far Left parties and activists in the West, but in recent years they have made major inroads on the far Right [and in the US, Pat Buchanan, the Pauls, Stormfront] as well, whose star is ascendant in many European Union states, thanks to hot-tempered debates about immigration and national identity. Simply put, if the EU fails to deal with such issues in an effective way, and soon, it will surrender them to the far Right, i.e. Putin's allies, in a manner that will have strategic results that will benefit Moscow in important ways.

28 posted on 12/25/2014 4:06:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ _____________________ Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: familyop

Natural resources is something that is easy to control for Putin’s clan. Kremlin did try to set up high tech production branded “Russian Silicon Valley” with state funding and big propaganda fanfares, but weren’t willing to let go of the total control over everything. Turned out business does not flourish without freedom and property rights so nothing came out of it.


29 posted on 12/25/2014 5:43:44 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Thank you, Krosan.


30 posted on 12/25/2014 9:01:24 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: ansel12
If you remember the Russia before 1992

I lived several years in the United Kingdom. My home was 15 miles of Heathrow Airport, 18 miles from RAF Strike Command in High Wycomb, 17 miles from an RAF-USAF base with nuclear armed cruise missiles, and 15 miles from the UKs production site for plutonium for nuclear bombs. At that time we lived with the reality that a war with Russia would result in our very immediate death if lucky but certain death by radiation poisoning shortly after hostilities.

Ronald Reagan defeated and destroyed the evil empire that held the Sword of Demascoules above our heads. The weakness of the Obama administration has allowed the evil empire to again threaten the world.

Actually relative to Obama I do not think it is weakness, but according to his plan.

31 posted on 12/25/2014 9:32:33 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: cpdiii

Man, those times were tense, you should have felt the tension in the units at the Fulda Gap.


32 posted on 12/25/2014 9:37:22 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Nachum
the salient point is that Tokyo felt that the Americans really started that war with their harsh sanctions

and the sanctions were a response to...? How do sanctions start a war when war was already being waged?

33 posted on 12/25/2014 9:47:01 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Peter ODonnell

You are a fool. Anti-Americanism is a hallmark of the Mad Vlad’s nationalism and patriotism. Rewarding a country for invading another is always wrong, but pretending we should be the ally of evil is just dumb all around.


34 posted on 12/25/2014 9:49:10 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cpdiii

Obama and Putin are allies playing a game on an international level, we are the intended victims.


35 posted on 12/25/2014 9:52:19 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Good article—looks like a new Cold War. Putin may try some assassinations—but he will not shoot Obama—he is Putins best friend.


36 posted on 12/25/2014 10:16:31 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Looks like nothing. The article just speculates about the unintended consequences.

And maybe on planet LaLa Putin and Obama are best friends. Here in the real world, they hate each other.


37 posted on 12/25/2014 11:00:15 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Well, I should have said, looks like nothing specific yet. It very well may be a new Cold War. My reaction was intended to be directed at the assassination part. THAT is the more speculative section.

Merry Christmas.

38 posted on 12/25/2014 11:23:59 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: familyop

If you are interested in how business in Russia works there is an excellent book “Deception: The Untold Story of East-West Espionage Today” by Edward Lucas. In the first chapter it goes over how Russian IRS steals a company from an American businessman, his lawyer goes to register a complaint in police, police assigns the thieves themselves to investigate the case, the lawyer is arrested, held in prison for almost a year without court and then dies under suspicious circumstances while in prison. At the same year the relatives of the policemen in charge of the investigation somehow become $43 million dollars richer.


39 posted on 12/26/2014 8:51:15 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Krosan; familyop

The recommended book may be an interesting read, but keep in mind it is like reading a biography of Ronald Reagan written by the head of the DNC. Or a book about Obama written by FReepers. It is a biased report. (And yes, I would find the FReeper book quite factual myself.)


40 posted on 12/26/2014 9:14:00 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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