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TX: What a Difference a Gun Makes
Gun Watch ^ | 8 December, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/09/2014 5:02:51 AM PST by marktwain


In April, a clerk at a Shell station in Houston was shot. From abc13.com:

HOUSTON --
Police say armed robbers held up a gas station in northwest Houston overnight. They got away, but not before shooting the clerk
  Now we learn that the clerk was paralyzed.  From click2houston.com:
According to his co-workers, the shooting left that clerk paralyzed. No one was arrested.
Back at the Shell station, Thursday night, 4 December, 2014.  This time things proceeded in a different fashion.  From click2houston.com:
Police said the clerk pointed his gun at the robbers and ordered them to leave. One of the crooks opened fire and the store clerk shot back, hitting one of the suspects in the leg, officers said.

(snip)

The clerk was not hurt in the gunfight and the robbers did not get away with anything, according to police.

What a difference a gun can make.  It turns a cat and mouse game into a cat and watchdog game, even if the watchdog is ordinarily a friendly sheepdog.  

Statistically, guns probably do not decrease crime a large amount, and they do not appear to increase crime at all; but if you are one of the statistics, they can make an enormous difference in your life.

 ©2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; robbery; secondamendment; tx
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1 posted on 12/09/2014 5:02:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Statistically, guns probably do not decrease crime a large amount” sounds like a probability that this reporter needs to investigate before reporting.


2 posted on 12/09/2014 5:07:30 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

> “Statistically, guns probably do not decrease crime a large amount” sounds like a probability that this reporter needs to investigate before reporting.

Sounds like a personal opinion and not objective reporting to me. I have a
Just one question to ask him - but if it only saves YOUR life isn’t that enough?


3 posted on 12/09/2014 5:14:59 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: huldah1776

The hedging in that statement is so big that you could make a maze out of it.


4 posted on 12/09/2014 5:21:14 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: huldah1776

:: Statistically, guns ^^probably^^ do not decrease crime a large amount. ::

Probably...probably?
LMBO!
Does this “urinalist” need to experience a home-invasion...Large, nondescript individuals kicking his doors down and “menacing” himself and family? Maybe thay have black T-shirts that say “POLICE” on the back and “I CAN’T BREATHE” on the front?

Now, don’t misunderstand me. I do not promote any 2A-Conservative publicly providing the street address and a description of any presumed armament of the the author but, at what point, in history, do we delineate between the revolutionaries and Crown-Tories?


5 posted on 12/09/2014 5:26:59 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: marktwain
guns probably do not decrease crime

The correct use of the word probably allows one to correctly state
guns probably do not decrease crime.

Probably means … likely but not certain.

6 posted on 12/09/2014 5:33:45 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: jsanders2001

“and the robbers did not get away with anything,”
So they were caught with everything?

Sounds like the personal opinion of a moron.


7 posted on 12/09/2014 5:36:00 AM PST by Slambat
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To: jsanders2001
Just one question to ask him - but if it only saves YOUR life isn’t that enough?

I believe he answers that question with the remainder of the sentence, where he states...but if you are one of the statistics, they (guns) can make an enormous difference in your life.

8 posted on 12/09/2014 5:38:45 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: huldah1776
“Statistically, guns probably do not decrease crime a large amount” sounds like a probability that this reporter needs to investigate before reporting.

For something to be rated "statistically" it needs to have all its data added into the statistical formula...

9 posted on 12/09/2014 5:40:27 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: marktwain

Putting out my occasional request for the Glendenning trigger lock video fail that apparently has been scrubbed from the Internet.


10 posted on 12/09/2014 5:43:24 AM PST by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: trebb

LOL I had to take statistics. Ended up a lot like the great depression graphs.


11 posted on 12/09/2014 6:11:48 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: marktwain

“Statistically, guns probably do not decrease crime a large amount, and they do not appear to increase crime at all;”

What a liberal idiot for saying that. Everywhere guns go crime doesn’t.

Every State that adopted Shall Issue had a massive decrease in crime.


12 posted on 12/09/2014 6:13:54 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: MosesKnows

I don’t really even care if it decreases crime. The collective is fascinating and all, but I’m interested in myself as an individual.
Its one of their most sickening tricks to coldly tell a rape victim, an elderly person, a single mom, or a man driving somewhere with his family that their possession of a gun may drive up overall crime rates, and breezily disregard whether or not it can help them survive an encounter.


13 posted on 12/09/2014 6:24:57 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: marktwain

This really debunks the silly advice ‘get them what they want and they’ll leave you alone’. Why on earth would you trust a criminal to do the right thing or to show mercy? Warning shots are equally stupid. At any rate you must come to peace with the ideas that security is your responsibility and youre the first responder, not a govt employee. However, you decide to mange that is up to you but domination of a situation usually carries the day w/o debate. Criminals look for easy the score, hard targets are passed over.


14 posted on 12/09/2014 6:59:51 AM PST by 556x45
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To: marktwain

“Statistically, guns probably do not decrease crime a large amount...”

A statement like that needs a LOT of footnotes. Just from a very short list that pops into mind:

Short, medium and long term crime statistics.

Decrease to the cost of prosecuting and imprisoning criminals.

Changing the type of crimes criminals are willing to commit.

Thwarted crimes never recorded as crimes.

Redirection of police resources towards crimes not inhibited by guns.

Increase in crimes less likely to face a gun.


15 posted on 12/09/2014 7:42:47 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain

Yep we never leave home without one. :-)


16 posted on 12/09/2014 7:42:57 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: huldah1776

Statistically, when gun ownership in the home drops dramatically, home invasions of occupied homes go up dramatically. The correlation is extremely strong. That may not be a large net change in crime, but it is a change for the worse in the character of those crimes.


17 posted on 12/09/2014 8:19:12 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; All

“Statistically, guns probably do not decrease crime a large amount...”

It is based primarily on John Lott’s work, “More Guns, Less Crime”. He shows that more guns result in less crime, but not by a large amount. It is in the 2-3% range per year, according to Lott.

http://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/493636.html/

Some studies by others show no increase and no decrease.

My view, from all of the studies is that more guns likely decrease crime a small, but measurable amount.


18 posted on 12/09/2014 8:26:55 AM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

But the clerk should have had more marksmanship training. Center of mass shots have a higher win rate than leg shots.


19 posted on 12/09/2014 8:44:02 AM PST by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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To: Pecos

Criminals tend to be very bad shots, legal gun owners do better.

More training is better, and participating in competetion helps make hits during high stress.


20 posted on 12/09/2014 8:55:25 AM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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