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New #Ferguson: “forensic evidence … lent credence to Officer Wilson’s version of events”
Legal Insurrection ^ | October 17, 2014 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 10/19/2014 10:19:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

NY Times reports: “Officer Wilson appeared for four hours before a St. Louis County grand jury” to tell his side of story.

A breaking New York Times report sheds new light on Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson’s mortal encounter with local Michael Brown.

The police officer who fatally shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., two months ago has told investigators that he was pinned in his vehicle and in fear for his life as he struggled over his gun with Mr. Brown, according to government officials briefed on the federal civil rights investigation into the matter.

The officer, Darren Wilson, has told the authorities that during the scuffle, Mr. Brown reached for the gun. It was fired twice in the car, according to forensics tests performed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The first bullet struck Mr. Brown in the arm; the second bullet missed.

The forensics tests showed Mr. Brown’s blood on the gun, as well as on the interior door panel and on Officer Wilson’s uniform. Officer Wilson told the authorities that Mr. Brown had punched and scratched him repeatedly, leaving swelling on his face and cuts on his neck.

According to the New York Times, Wilson told authorities that he fought with Brown for possession of his service pistol, resulting in two rounds fired inside his police vehicle. One round struck Brown in the arm, and the other was wasted.

Importantly, Brown’s blood was found on the gun by forensics analysis, as well as on the inside of the police vehicle, confirming his presence in the vehicle and the weapon.

Wilson said that Brown punched and scratched him numerous times, causing abrasions and swelling to his face and neck.

The officials briefed on the case said the forensic evidence gathered in the car lent credence to Officer Wilson’s version of events. According to his account, he was trying to leave his vehicle when Mr. Brown pushed him back in. Once inside the S.U.V., the two began to fight, Officer Wilson told investigators, and he removed his gun from the holster on his right hip.

Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department has said in interviews that Officer Wilson was “pushed back into the car” by Mr. Brown and “physically assaulted.”

The Times goes on to quote Brown’s friend Dorian Johnson as a sort of opposing witness to Officer Wilson.

Remarkably, the Times leaves unwritten the fact that Johnson has already confessed to collaborating with Brown in a strong-arm robbery of a local convenience store only minutes before the shooting that took Brown’s life.

However, Mr. Johnson’s description of the scuffle is detailed and specific, and directly contradicts what Officer Wilson has told the authorities.

Mr. Johnson has said that Officer Wilson was the aggressor, backing up his vehicle and opening the door, which hit Mr. Johnson and Mr. Brown and then bounced back.

“He just reached his arm out the window and grabbed my friend around his neck, and he was trying to choke my friend,” Mr. Johnson told reporters after the shooting. “He was trying to get away, and the officer then reached out and grabbed his arm to pull him inside the car.”

I expect the Grand Jury will weight the credibility of the various witness testimony as their civic duty requires.

The Times notes the importance of this new information, which Wilson presumably testified to:

"In September, Officer Wilson appeared for four hours before a St. Louis County grand jury, which was convened to determine whether there is probable cause that he committed a crime. Legal experts have said that his decision to testify was surprising, given that it was not required by law. But the struggle in the car may prove to be a more influential piece of information for the grand jury, one that speaks to Officer Wilson’s state of mind, his feeling of vulnerability and his sense of heightened alert when he killed Mr. Brown."


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News
KEYWORDS: blackkk; darrenwilson; ericholder; ferguson; kenyanbornmuzzie; michaelbrown; missouri
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1 posted on 10/19/2014 10:19:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is the grand jury doing?

I’ve seen multiple shootings with multiple shooters and multiple bodies, multiple witnesses and they wrap up the deal in a month or two...

This deal was basically two people involved and one gun...

This is starting to reek or manipulation.


2 posted on 10/19/2014 10:23:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This report of what the grand jury is seeing, is just devastating to the narrative that a racist cop shot Michael Brown for no reason.

It would be surprising if an indictment comes out of the grand jury.

If there is no indictment, you know there will be pressures on authorities to appoint a special prosecutor to issue the indictment.

That’s exactly what happened in Trayvon Martin’s case. In that case, law enforcement initially found no evidence on which to indict Zimmerman. It was a special prosecutor in Florida, appointed by the governor, who indicted Zimmerman.

We’ll see if the same happens in Missouri.


3 posted on 10/19/2014 10:25:18 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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“New #Ferguson: “forensic evidence … lent credence to Officer Wilson’s version of events””

i’m surprised, I was under the impression he just decided to shoot a black guy that night.


4 posted on 10/19/2014 10:25:18 PM PDT by willywill
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yep, and the man hasn’t had a job since that day.


5 posted on 10/19/2014 10:26:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: willywill

The liberal narrative is that racist white cops, and racist white Hispanic watchmen, shoot young black men for target practice.

To paraphrase the high pitched liberal Negress congresswoman, forget her name, Trayvon was shot like a dog in the street. That’s the liberal view, that young black men are getting shot for no reason.


6 posted on 10/19/2014 10:26:59 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: willywill

He was an unarmed, gentle, child-like lad who had his hands high above his head signing, “I love you” to the bloodthirsty cop.


7 posted on 10/19/2014 10:35:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is nothing more than a trial balloon to gauge public sentiment.
8 posted on 10/19/2014 10:40:01 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The Browns’ lawyer was pooh poohing this forensic evidence and stressing ‘eyewitness’ testimony.
I would be curious to know whether the witnesses admitted in their testimony seeing Brown in the patrol car, or whether they forgot to mention it (Oh yeah, that was when M-dawg was stompin’ that pig. Better leave that out, it fuzzy anyway.)

If their testimony can be impeached due to this material omission, the Browns can forget about winning the lottery. Brown had just committed a crime in the store and then assaulted a LEO, also apparently tried to take his gun.
Brown was a thug and he got smoked. End of story.
Like Duncan Thomas’ family, no Megajackpot. But thanks for playing, all of you. Now. Go away.

Eyewitnesses fail to recollect and lie. Forensic evidence done right, scientifically, doesn’t forget and it doesn’t lie.


9 posted on 10/19/2014 11:13:21 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Judging by the evidence, another Saint who wasn't.

The black community has to choose better cases to hang their "civil right abuses" hat on.

It does that community a great disservice to beatify such flawed individuals. It serves only to dilute the validity of REAL abuses, of which there are many: for blacks, whites, and every other ethnicity.

This knee-jerk tendency of the black community to grasp at straws seriously undermines their causes in the perception of the citizenry at large.

10 posted on 10/19/2014 11:23:04 PM PDT by sargon
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To: sargon
Judging by the evidence, another Saint who wasn't.

The black community has to choose better cases to hang their "civil right abuses" hat on.

It does that community a great disservice to beatify such flawed individuals. It serves only to dilute the validity of REAL abuses, of which there are many: for blacks, whites, and every other ethnicity.

This knee-jerk tendency of the black community to grasp at straws seriously undermines their causes in the perception of the citizenry at large.


All true.

However, if you spend any time listening to "urban talk radio" it is obvious that some black Americans are Eric Hoffer True Believers who are not about to change their minds over trivial considerations like evidence. They have their mindset, their version of reality, and are prepared to go down in flames with their beliefs, be they ever so destructive, hateful, and fictional. They have an answer for everything.
11 posted on 10/19/2014 11:32:03 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: dragnet2

They’ll wrap it up right after election day.


12 posted on 10/20/2014 1:48:59 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's amusing to go to DummyU and hear the inmates defend Brown's cohort in crime, Johnson, as a legitimate witness. Sure, another crook's word is infallible. Wilson reached out his window and tried to choke/pull the huge Brown into his vehicle. Even some other Dummies were puzzled by that insane scenario.

But they were quickly chastised by the other Dummies who know a common, white, racist cop procedure when they hear about it. Cops always try to pull huge people through their vehicle window. That's the normal way of arresting someone. Sure. (snicker)

13 posted on 10/20/2014 4:17:35 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Remarkably, the Times leaves unwritten the fact that Johnson has already confessed to collaborating with Brown in a strong-arm robbery of a local convenience store only minutes before the shooting that took Brown’s life

Remarkably, unexpectedly, the times presents the facts, but slants them so much, that you have to know what happened, or you would be convicting the officer {which is the whole point of the times presentation}.

14 posted on 10/20/2014 4:37:03 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Nepeta

A lot of whst I learned in life (about people and causes), I learned from reading Eric Hoffer’s newspaper column as a boy.

It’s sad that he is not better remembered these days. He was a true visionary.


15 posted on 10/20/2014 4:59:35 AM PDT by catman67
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dorian Johnson has already been established as a convicted liar and is directly responsible for the explosion of violence directly after this.

Just like the friends of Vonderrit Myers with their sandwich story.


16 posted on 10/20/2014 5:01:29 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: tumblindice

The Brown’s lawyer is also the Chief of Police of the nearby Pine Lawn Police Department.

Conflict of interest, eh?


17 posted on 10/20/2014 5:03:13 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: dragnet2
" One round struck Brown in the arm, and the other was wasted."
In a situation like that, too bad a round was "wasted"...ammo is too expensive to be "wasted."
18 posted on 10/20/2014 5:20:56 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
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To: TheMole

Yes, no use getting out the Obama vote on election day, hold the announcement of no bill to indite until mid November.

Don’t allow Obama to stoke racism fires to get Dems elected. Blacks have no reason to get out and vote for Obama without there hatred of whites.


19 posted on 10/20/2014 5:29:37 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Ferguson Lynch Mob has already reached a verdict. There’s no need for further evidence to the contrary.


20 posted on 10/20/2014 5:35:44 AM PDT by windsorknot
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