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Origin of AIDS Pandemic Traced to the Democratic Republic of Congo
trove ^ | October 3, 2014 | Elliot Hannon, Slate

Posted on 10/03/2014 10:09:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Three decades after the world witnessed HIV begin to take its devastating human toll, scientists have isolated where the pandemic started in Kinshasa, in what was then Zaire, and now the Democratic Republic of Congo. The revelation is outlined in the journal Science, which dated the origin of the pandemic as early as the 1920s.

While the virus is thought to have crossed into the human population years earlier, the Guardian notes, it remained largely localized until it reached Kinshasa, which catapulted throughout the region, and then world. A confluence of social factors led to what the authors call a “perfect storm” leading to the virus’ explosion in the D.R.C. “[The] report says a roaring sex trade, rapid population growth and unsterilised needles used in health clinics probably spread the virus,” the BBC reports....

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; History; Local News
KEYWORDS: africa; aids; disease; epidemic

1 posted on 10/03/2014 10:09:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember setting down with my GP doctor about 30 years ago, and asking him about this aids stuff, He said they have only touched the surface it will kill a lot of People, watch where you go and what and who you touch.


2 posted on 10/03/2014 10:14:33 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oddly enough, I'm pretty certain the Ebola virus sprang from exactly the same place: Kinsasha
3 posted on 10/03/2014 10:22:16 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In an article from 1988, in Commentary Magazine, Michael Fumento predicted the following:
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It can break out into the general heterosexual population at any time, and when it does it will become (in the words of one concerned clergyman) “a national disaster as great as a thermonuclear war”.

And what happened?

Uhm, for heterosexuals not much but, today at least 2/3rds of those diagnosed with HIV have sex with other mens.

I bring this up since we are discussing Ebola as well.

HIV/AIDS has a fairly specific method for infecting and is completely avoidable.

Ebola too, has a specific method of infection.

All three require a transmission of bodily fluids into a new host through any of the 8 openings in the body or through a wound.

Ebola isn’t going to be anything like thermonuclear war anymore than AIDS.


4 posted on 10/03/2014 10:27:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A confluence of social factors led to what the authors call a “perfect storm” leading to the virus’ explosion in the D.R.C. “[The] report says a roaring sex trade, rapid population growth and unsterilised needles used in health clinics probably spread the virus,” the BBC reports....

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I wonder why they initially called it gay cancer in the US?


5 posted on 10/03/2014 10:38:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

One of the diseases AIDS causes is a rare, easily diagnosable skin cancer.


6 posted on 10/03/2014 10:42:21 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the 1970s and the amoral sexual revolution turned this disease into a worldwide pandemic. And some still scoff at monogamy knowing the dangers of rampent promiscuity.


7 posted on 10/03/2014 10:45:45 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Moonman62
Karposi's sarcoma
8 posted on 10/03/2014 10:55:23 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Vendome

The comparison with AIDS brings many thoughts and more than a few memories. In 1984 as a Neurosurgery Resident in Philly with the only stereotactic frame in town we got a number of cases of gym coaches and such who had unusual brain abscesses. At the time it wasn’t appreciated that they were all Toxo and could just be treated nor was the diagnosis HIV or AIDS being used. We did a number of biopsies of these things and had patients in the hospital. I was young then and “bulletproof”.

One point is this: I recall the “folks who run things” response was to invent “Universal Precautions”. The only thing this really accomplished was to shift the blame for you catching something at work on to YOU. I suppose this was the first thing that turned me from a McGovern liberal to a conservative it just took another decade to finish the process.

I do remember more than one occasion where I had more than a little blood on my skin from these guys. I remember asking a nurse at my elbow one time if she thought these folks might have a blood borne disease as I walked off to wash it off my hands. Things change, there was a time when surgeons carried their knives around in their boots. We thought nothing of getting blood on us. I remember feeling that exposure to these things is a risk one takes when you decide to apply to Med School. It would be like becoming a SEAL but then asking OSHA to come remove the risk from your job. You don’t mitigate risk by removing it from the environment. That is silly, expensive, and futile and a strategy invented by lawyers for lawyers. You mitigate risk by understanding it and managing your risk down to acceptable levels with your intellect. Like mountain climbers. You don’t look for “safer” mountains to climb you learn skills to survive the hard ones.

That said, I do believe letting unrestricted travel continue globally with a disease like Ebola is just plain idiocy. You clamp the bleeding artery while the patient still has a blood pressure. Then it is trivial. Two minutes later it is too late.

It would be ironic, though, that, Zombie Flu ended up spread widely but only seriously in demographics that vote for Rats, like AIDS has. God really does have a sense of humor and justice I suppose.


9 posted on 10/03/2014 11:06:23 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

basically the origins were thought to have been from people eating monkeys - brains and such - in this area.


10 posted on 10/03/2014 11:59:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: wastoute

not everyne develops it. kaposi’s sarcoma.


11 posted on 10/04/2014 12:00:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: wastoute

which is why sane people can basically conclude the powers that be want an epidemic to occur.


12 posted on 10/04/2014 12:01:22 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The report tells how it spread...but not how it began. That lack of information is very telling.


13 posted on 10/04/2014 12:11:41 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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14 posted on 10/04/2014 5:22:45 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Claire Wolfe called. She said the Awkward Phase is over.)
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To: wastoute

I had more than a few friend die from AIDS.

Sorry, I don’t really have anything to add to your comment.

Memories....not Cat’s


15 posted on 10/04/2014 8:01:35 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That ain’t quite the same story I heard regarding Green Monkeys.


16 posted on 10/04/2014 9:00:24 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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