Posted on 09/28/2014 2:18:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Or right, I dunno, that's why I'm asking. I have this buddy on Facebook. Good guy, good friend, I like him a lot. He's an ex-nuc, if you've ever read Blind Man's Bluff, his boat was the subject of one of the stories in the book (he won't tell me which one, which is how it should be). In spite of the fact that he glows gently in the dark, I respect him a great deal.
Which is why I was surprised when he posted a link to this article and indicated his approval. If you don't want to click the link, the article was published at Talking Points Memo, it's from a group of former service members who work for The Truman Project (A Soros funded non-profit), who are outraged, just outraged, that Greg Gutfield made a pun on The Five. They were discussing the female pilot from the UAE who led one of the airstrikes in Syria. Greg referred to it as "boobs on the ground" and one of his co-commentators made a joke about her having trouble parking the airplane when she got back. This, apparently, is the greatest outrage since the Holocaust. I replied:
Couldn't disagree more. If it was on a newscast? Maybe. The Five is a humorous, satirical commentary show. Notice who is doing the complaining: The Truman Project, one of George Soros' web of non-profits dedicated to advancing left wing causes. This is all part of the coordinated effort to manufacture an imaginary "war on women" leading up to the mid terms, a desperate attempt to distract people from the fact that 6 years of "progressive" governance has been a disaster. I know more than one female member of the armed forces, and any one of them would reply "Goddamn right we needed boobs on the ground, you swinging dicks weren't getting it done".
He responded no, he found it offensive, and furthermore, the UAE stuck their necks out by having a woman lead the attack, they are sure to be monitoring American news outlets, and stuff like this wasn't doing us any favors with a much needed diplomatic and military ally. (I'm not quoting him because I don't have permission to, but I am trying to present his arguments honestly as he made them).
I thought about this. I thought about it for a day, as I said, this is a friend and I respect his opinion. Ultimately I came back with:
I've thought long and hard about this. LOL, really, I have, which is why I didn't reply immediately last night. I respect your intelligence and point of view, so I wanted to consider what you're saying seriously. There have been news reports that the pilot's family have disowned her, which is a shame, because by all reports she performed admirably. I'm still going to have to say that in my opinion, you're wrong. There are two issues here.
#1, I stand by my initial assessment, this is all Proggy theater, designed to manipulate emotions for elections and nothing else.. I don't think I could put it better than a currently deployed buddy of mine put it when I asked him about the linked article:
"Tell em to gimme a callback when they REALLY esteem and love our armed forces and don't see them as Nazis and torturing kill-bots, or alternatively as dead-end inner city minority yutes that were too stupid to get a job at the Post Office. Libs give a {expletive] about military people until(sic-when) they can see them as victims, like here, when they're all for women in combat, but won't tolerate some mean boys being rude to them."
#2, regarding your last post, I have no doubt that UAE officials watched closely, and were probably outraged at Gutfield's joke. To that I say "So what". You seem to be rehashing the Terry Jones argument. One of the core values of being an American is the First Amendment. You, and I, and Greg Gutfield, have the absolute right to say any stupid thing that comes to mind. That statement may be offensive, funny, crude or ridiculous. It doesn't matter. The right to say it is a core principle. If we start censoring or monitoring people for exercising that right, we lose what it means to be Americans. If the UAE wants our might on their side, they have to accept that. They just might to want to take a moment to consider why we have such might, and they don't.
Finally, I would note that while the folks who signed the Soros article you linked did serve in the armed forces (I assume, I'm taking that as a given, although I wouldn't put it past Soros to invent people to suit his needs. A Jew who made his fortune by profiting off sending other Jews to the gas chamber is not exactly an.....unimpeachable source in my book), that doesn't give them any special insight. I honor their service, and thank them for it. That doesn't mean they are immune from being full of s**t.
So, that's it. Am I off base here? I might be, Lord knows I'm frequently an idiot. Why, just last winter when I was licking a flagpole, an entire group of people gathered around and castigated me. That was hurtful. In this case, I don't think so, but I might be, as I said, my friend is someone I respect a great deal. When someone like that tells me I'm out of line, I have to consider seriously that they might be right. What say y'all?
It wasn’t Greg who said “Boobs on the Ground”.
Greg did wonder if she could park it.
I cringed at both comments and they could be said just fine in polite company.
Ut, I’m not getting knotted up a out this.
The joke was more about their culture than ours.
Women are under so much subjugation , in those cultures, it was astonishing to learn a woman was not only a pilot but, a squad commander.
Is she allowed to driver a car alone? Without a suicide bomb?
She is shown wearing typical head covering for a woman in that culture.
This as she is a war fighter? Does she make that “lah, lah, lah, lah, lah, lah...” sound each time she pickles?
Good for her and hats off for her strength to enlarge woman’s rights but, they are woefully behind that of any woman in the modern world.
Your first reaction was correct. The left rhetorically slaps us conservatives around several times every hour. Their peer approval rating seems to rise with each gratuitous GOP bashing or trashing. They don’t own our emotions. They, the Soros Acolytes, do not control every breath I take or every move I make, which is how they want things to become. They’ll get over it, same as we had to absorb even worse behavior from elected officals i.e. Sheila Jackson Lee, or RFK(blabbermouth) Jr. or Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Screw them and their phony sensitivities! Say THAT out loud to their faces, they way they treat us.
Greg Gutfeld is very funny, and very original. The left is totally humorless, and the only thing they laugh at is conservatives, and even that seems to make them uncomfortable.
More power to humor.
This is all kabuki theatre.
If it was war 'for real', we'd be hitting men during the day
and not bombing 'where they ain't' at night.
Destroying windows and buildings at night , rather than hitting them while concentrated and working during the day, shows what a half-a$$ed effort this is.
These are Rules of Engagement by Barry(the Muzzie-in-Chief) and Hagel(the Muzzie-of-Defense)designed to look good, but accomplishing NOTHING !
It is kabuki !!
It was Eric Bolling’s comment, not Greg Gutfeld. Bolling apologized profusely the following day.
oh my some folks need to have a thicker skin.....the world is too pc as it is
I mean really???? This is a big deal???
Sounded like nothing more than the kind of dopey jokes you’d hear all the time on “Match Game ‘76.” Of course, back then, everybody would be laughing at the sheer corniness of it all, and having a good time.
Not in America: Circa 2014. Where PC-mindthink requires immediate punishment for any transgressors. And yet, at the same time, off-the-charts vileness and vulgarity have somehow become the mainstay of modern comedy.
The culture is so warped these days.
Bolling apologized profusely the following day.
...his apology was truly barf-worthy...
Life's short enough, as it is, without some Soro's-funded manufactured outrage ruining the dwindling days of the easily commanded.
And "sticking" one's "neck out" is, under the circumstances, more than a little ironic as a choice of words.
How much do you want to bet that 1/3 of those people never served in the military and another 1/3 have bad conduct type discharges?
nonetheless, it was Bolling, not Gutfeld.
You’re just fine Ace!
For what its worth I enlisted at 17 during Vietnam and was fortunate enough to become a nuclear weapons specialist, stationed stateside.
But, I had no notion of that prospect when I signed up.
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