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Islamic State or Russia? (Shadow governments exposed)
Market Oracle ^ | DK Matai

Posted on 09/02/2014 4:39:10 AM PDT by mgist

Islamic State or Russia? Ten Key Questions Towards Pragmatism Politics / GeoPolitics Sep 01, 2014 - 01:03 PM GMT By: DK_Matai

There are insufficient resources and bandwidth to counter the rising threat of global destabilisation from the barbaric ambitions of the Islamic State operatives and Russia’s increasing belligerence and military interventions in Eastern Europe simultaneously. At some stage, a clear and present danger based priority needs to be established. At that point, some strategic questions need to be asked. It is in the context of prioritisation that the ATCA 5000 Research and Analysis Wing and the mi2g Intelligence Unit have been framing the foundation for this Socratic dialogue for executive decision makers across more than 150 countries around the world.

We are grateful to the following ATCA 5000 distinguished members for their seminal contribution to this briefing: The Lord Howell of Guildford at the Palace of Westminster; Sir Desmond de Silva, Queen's Counsel (QC) arriving back from the United Nations in New York; Herve' de Carmoy, a distinguished banker and member of The Trilateral Commission in Brussels arriving back from Israel; Former British ambassador and member of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, Oliver Miles, CMG, in Oxford, England; Rudi Bogni, a distinguished banker and trustee of the Prince of Liechtenstein Foundation and of LGT, in Basel, Switzerland; Lee Robinson, founder of Altana Wealth based in Monte Carlo, Monaco; Robert McNally, legal advisor and general counsel, in London; Hamid Hakimzadeh with deep knowledge of global energy and financial markets and the Middle East, based in Hampstead, England; John Read, founder of Read-Dillon strategic international corporate communications in South Africa and Europe; Robert Mathias, founder and chief executive of Safeserve, based in London; and Lawrence Bloom, co-chair of Pathway Alliance operating from Zurich, Switzerland, with close proximity to China's leadership in Beijing.

Image: Propaganda: A satirical cartoon tweeted by Islamic State Media showing the US, Russia, the EU and China as dogs tearing what appears to be the Middle East apart

Russia's Psychology

In order to understand Russia's psychology today, let us not forget that the battles on the "Eastern Front" constituted the largest military confrontation in history during the Second World War. Russia has not always been an adversary. Let us remind ourselves that after the axis powers, spearheaded by Nazi Germany, attacked Russia on June 22nd, 1941, the allied nations including the United Kingdom, Free France, the British Commonwealth, and later the United States -- after the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941 -- worked hand in glove with Russia by providing vital intelligence and material aid to topple Nazi Germany and associated Axis powers until their surrender on May 8th, 1945, Victory in Europe (V-E) day. The Eastern Front battles were characterised by unprecedented ferocity, wholesale destruction, mass deportations, and immense loss of life variously due to combat, starvation, exposure, disease and massacres. In particular, the Battle of Stalingrad was a major battle of the Second World War in which Nazi Germany and the axis powers fought the Soviet Union for control of the city of Stalingrad, modern day Volgograd. Marked by constant close quarters combat and disregard for military and civilian casualties, it is amongst the bloodiest battles in the history of warfare. All this has left an indelible mark on the Russian psyche.

Regaining Superpower Status

The Eastern Front, as the site of nearly all extermination camps, death marches, ghettos, and the majority of pogroms, was central to the Holocaust. Of the estimated 70 million deaths attributed to the Second World War, nearly half, many of them civilian, occurred on the Eastern Front. The Eastern Front was decisive in determining the outcome of the Second World War, eventually serving as the main reason for Berlin's surrender and Germany's defeat, first at the hands of the advancing Red Army of the Soviet Union. This resulted in the destruction of the Third Reich, the partition of Germany for nearly half a century and the rise of the Soviet Union as a military and industrial superpower. However, the re-unification of Germany in 1989-1990 and the collapse of the Soviet Union, created an adverse situation for Russia as it nursed the wounds of a fall from grace, no longer an imperial behemoth. It is that superpower status which the Russians crave once more because the loss of international standing and influence in the decades following 1990 has been too difficult to bear and seen as a national humiliation. President Putin seeks to restore that sense of national pride and to provide safety and security by maintaining buffer states loyal to Russia, so that a Stalingrad-type situation does not re-manifest. In this regard, Russia was given tacit assurances by the allies prior to the re-unification of Germany, which the European Union establishment appears to have conveniently forgotten when making overtures to Russian neighbouring countries to become part of the European juggernaut and to participate eventually under the joint security umbrella. This may be perceived by Russia to be a clear violation of trust and perhaps yet another reason for the genesis of the crisis now being witnessed in Ukraine. Another prime reason being the need to distract from internal problems.

Islamic State

The Islamic State (IS), formerly the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), is a Sunni jihadist group in the Middle East with trans-national recruitment of operatives. In its self-proclaimed status as a "Caliphate" on July 4th, 2014, it claims religious authority over all Muslims across the world and aspires to bring much of the Muslim-inhabited regions of the world under its political control, beginning with Iraq, Syria and other territory in the Levant region, which includes Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Cyprus and an area in southern Turkey that includes Hatay. It has been designated as a foreign terrorist organisation by the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia, and has been described by the United Nations and Western and Middle Eastern media as a terrorist group. The United Nations has accused the Islamic State of committing "mass atrocities" and war crimes. Islamic State operatives returning back to their homes from the theatres of conflict are regarded as the biggest threat to the safety and stability of their home nations.

The Long View

Unlike the Russia problem, which will be sorted out one way or another, perhaps catastrophically, the Islamist threat could last centuries, because it is not a state to state challenge, it is a challenge of ideas. Remember the Nizari Ismailis sect of the Assassins? They terrorised the Middle East from the 11th century to the 13th century AD until such a time as the Mongols killed them to the last man including their leader in Alamut. They operated through the entire area, but they needed a physical stronghold to train their operatives. That territorial stronghold was impregnable, in the mountains, but the Mongols captured it in the end and brought the curtain down. More difficult to deprive the Islamists of a territorial stronghold in our modern world of the Internet, cryptography, digital identity theft, hacking and social media.

Ten Key Questions

What are the key questions that need to be framed and considered carefully before jumping to the conclusion that some powerful members of the global community of nations, including the NATO countries, can take on Russia and deal with the fallout of the Islamic State simultaneously. Perhaps a choice may need to be made and a priority set in the very near future:

1. Are the key world powers able to counter the rising Russian aggression into Ukraine and the barbaric threat of the Islamic State in the Middle-East simultaneously?

2. Is it the Islamic State or Russia the newer and bigger threat to global peace and security and the fragile global economic recovery?

3. If the global economy is primarily energy driven, how easy is that calculus to maintain:

a) If a vexed Russia halts its oil and gas supplies to major world powers within Europe and without? What are the consequences and how disruptive are they?

b) What about the asymmetry between Russian willingness to play hardball and the disproportionate havoc of an energy crisis on European economies which are already on the brink of a deflationary spiral?

c) If vital energy supplies out of the Middle-East are disrupted by the Islamic State to many parts of the world, what are the consequences for the industrialised world and the rising elephant and tiger economies?

d) With the advent of fracking in America, given that they now have near self-sufficiency in oil and gas, do they no longer have any need to support -- financially or militarily -- the unstable Middle Eastern regimes?

4. Does the Islamic State, given their vast territorial ambitions, not pose a threat to all the key global powers including America, Europe, Russia, China, Japan, India and Brazil and their interests in the Middle-East, Asia, Africa, Europe and the Americas?

5. Can those in Europe and America, brought together by the NATO alliance, afford to 'go it alone' against jihadist and violent Islamic threats to their domestic societies and mustn't they, in the end, work with China, Russia and other rising powers to curb growing anarchy?

6. Is it desirable that the attempt to crush the Islamic State is seen as a purely American-European initiative and what have the confrontations in Iraq and Afghanistan taught in the last decade or so?

7. What if the Putin-dominated spasm of the old Russian exceptionalism, which in the globalised network world makes no more sense than American exceptionalism or any other country's conviction that they are somehow superior and can cope alone, gives way to an eventual realisation that we are all in it together? In due course, even Putin, for all his current popularity in Russia, may discover this? At that point, can a pragmatic accommodation/compromise be eventually reached with Russia?

8. What can be done to forge a greater global alliance to counter the Islamic State threat not just within the Middle-East but across the world amongst the key powers including America, Europe, Russia, China, Japan, India and Brazil?

9. Is it unwise to play a game of chicken with Russia, as her people are far more inured to suffering -- mostly at the hands of their own rulers -- than the relatively pampered Europeans?

10. Instead of looking at sovereign confrontations like the world wars of eras gone, with MAD -- Mutual Assured Destruction -- consequences in the nuclear age, does it make sense to look at energy, water and natural resource security and safety as key drivers? How can we steer towards a co-operative rather than confrontational international order, which only profits arms dealers and manufacturers, and that too in the short term?

Conclusion

I. Unlike America, The problem for Europe is its dependence upon Russian energy. What Europe needs to do as a matter of urgency is to become self-sufficient in energy so as to separate itself from its reliance upon Russia and that cannot happen without structural changes and may yet take a decade or more.

II. Whilst it is plausible that some compromises/accommodations can be reached with Russia eventually, none can be reached with the Islamic State. In this respect perhaps, the Islamic State represents a greater danger.

III. The most valuable contribution countries, not directly involved in either of these two great crises, can make is to encourage those directly involved to deal with them, either by negotiation (Russia/Ukraine) or if necessary by force (Syria/Iraq/Saudi Arabia/Egypt/Jordan/Lebanon/Turkey/Iran). By appearing to take the role of world policeman (which America and Europe may not be able to play at this time, even if they were entitled) they encourage those directly involved to play with fire (Russia/Ukraine) or to sit back and wait for somebody else to protect their interests (Middle-East vis-a-vis Islamic State).

IV. Given the practice of Islam throughout the world including large numbers in Russia and China, the Islamic State confronts all of us with a global problem and threat. Russia, on the other hand, with its activities in Eastern Ukraine presents us, perhaps, with a regional problem. Thus the need to deal with the Islamic State may be paramount and perhaps ought to take priority in the immediate future. We may find it more productive to make common cause with both Russia and China over the Islamic State threat. However, it is plausible that both Russia and China may leave it to America and Europe to do the heavy lifting so as to avoid inevitable extremist backlashes in their own countries.

V. Putin is not a madman, only a ruthless poker player with a chip on his shoulder. Tactically, he may continue to play cat and mouse to extract maximum advantage until such time as NATO shows willingness to fight or the Russian army runs out of those spare parts that were produced in Ukraine or China and gets annoyed for its own reasons. A spark could blow up a huge explosion just as in 1914 because of miscalculations. This is when the threat of the Russia-Ukraine crisis may well surpass that of the Islamic State as a black swan event.

We trust the right decisions – and alliances - are going to be made for the best outcomes for humankind on this pale blue dot barely visible in the grand narrative of the cosmos. A little bit of humility instead of hubris may help.

What are your thoughts, observations and views? We are hosting an Expert roundtable on this issue at ATCA 24/7 on Yammer.

By DK Matai


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: commission; islamicstate; trilateral
This is revealing in so many ways.

They are throwing in the towel. Practical or Planned Tactical?

The US is no where to be found except in the Trilateral Commission.

1 posted on 09/02/2014 4:39:10 AM PDT by mgist
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To: mgist

-——If a vexed Russia halts its oil and gas supplies-——

A vexed mother Russia that halts oil shipments is a dead mother Russia that would wither and die within 60 days. Absent the sustenance of oil, mother Russia will starve.

I think the extrapolation of ISIL into all the world is bravado lacking reality. The Assumption is that ISIL has or can create the resources to accomplish the wet dream is just silly.
there is no doubt that ISIL might project by committing isolated acts of hateful terror but that is the extent.

The introduction of the term IS, Islamic State, provides the answer to “ what do we call the new nation of Islamic fanatics”. IS must be feared because of the potential to do great hrm on a very small scale but great harm on a world scale is simply not possible. It presumes that those that follow the tneants of Islam desire and accept the radical theology.

Unlike the Christian Reformation that threw off the oppression of Rome, the Islamic Reformation will not accept the oppression of Tikrit


2 posted on 09/02/2014 5:01:28 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

I agree, so why are world government feigning ineptitude?

I’m tired of all this pretense. Obama is obviously beholden to something other than the American people, but world governments are silent.

They have to know that Obama released the leader of ISIS in 2009. Obama has overtly supported ISIS with money, training, and arms. Are they all complicit, and compromised, including NATO and Israel?

What is the end game of this nonsense?


3 posted on 09/02/2014 5:30:16 AM PDT by mgist (Semper Vigils)
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To: bert

How do the collective world governments pretend to “See NO Evil”? Just peruse the headlines and you get the picture.

Samuel Hersch, famed author, did a good job of connecting the dots of Obama’s illegal use of the US military to go to war in Lybia, Syria, and Pakistan.
http://www.herald.co.zw/syria-the-red-line-and-the-rat-line/ The Red Line and the Rat Line.

Obama’s Illegal Use of US Military A True Concern
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/15/irs-ap-benghanzi-not-real-scandals

“The real Obama scandal: fighting illegal wars in Libya and Pakistan
The AP, IRS and Benghazi controversies are political sideshows. Obama’s use of illegal force abroad is true concern The Guardian 2013.

2008-There was a media blackout on very serious issues.
ILLEGAL OBAMA DONORS: MIDDLE EASTERN ARABS 08/04/2008
Gazan brothers’ illicit contributions listed in government campaign filings
http://www.wnd.com/2008/08/71431/#u3J1m8mt0dpAUqjW.99

2008-Obama’s Foreign Donors: The media averts its eyes
By Pamela Geller
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

In 2009 Obama released a brutal al Qaeda terrorist known as al Baghdadi, Bagdhadi went on to head ISIS, and as of 2014, the Islamic Radical led by Baghdadi have killed thousands of Christians and has overtaken Iraq.
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/147962-startling-report-isis-leader-details-release-u-s-custody-brutal-reign-terror/

Obama partiality to Iran, has been consistent.
US allows Iran its nuclear vision
THE AUSTRALIAN APRIL 03, 2010
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/us-allows-iran-its-nuclear-vision/story-e6frg6zo-1225849035756?nk=320aa1b879530d8e35eefa3a74a334f1

The media ignored the fact that the new “anti war” President tripled the number of troops in Afghanistan in 2009.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/74-us-afghan-casualties-came-after-obama-ordered-troops-increased
They continue to ignore that most US military casualties occurred after the “anti war” President was elected.

2011-US Established Taliban Headquarters in Qatar
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-offers-the-taliban-a-new-mideast-headquarters-2011-9
(In 2013, it was found that modern US weapons the CIA gave to Qatar, were being used by the Taliban against Americans, Obama administration handed over 5 dangerous terrorist to QATAR “Taliban Headquarters” in 2014!)

2012-Corruption: Exposing Barack Obama’s Illegal Foreign Campaign Money Loophole
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/exposing_barack_obamas_illegal_foreign_campaign_money_loophole

2012-Shadow government: CFR, Trilateral Commission
U.S.-backed Syrian Opposition Linked to Bilderberg, CFR, Goldman Sachs & George Soros-2012
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/12084-us-backed-syrian-opposition-linked-to-bilderberg-cfr-goldman-sachs-george-soros

Despite political duplicity, and pretense, Qatar and Iran have always maintained good relations, and Qatar has consistently supported Iran’s quest for nuclear power.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/12/02/337852/qatar-wants-powerful-iran-in-mideast/

2013 -Politifact FRAUD rewrite their own history (media lost so much credibility)
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/12/13/phony-fact-check-site-politifact-caught-rewriting-its-own-history

Obama Admin. Continued Support of Terrorists
2013-Afghan government slams US for sending arms to Taliban
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/10/02/327215/afghan-mp-slams-us-for-arming-taliban/
“The Afghan Interior Ministry has strongly condemned the US military over a shipment of weapons to Zabul Province in the troubled southern Afghanistan.”

2013-Muslim Brotherhood Linked to Malik Obama and Obama Admin. 9/2013
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/16606-muslim-brotherhood-linked-to-malik-obama-and-obama-admin

Obama Administration Accused of Creating ISIS -by Muslims
Nabeel Naiem: “It is known that the USA released him from prison and he spent 20 to 30 million US Dollars to establish these ISIS groups and the first ISIS camps werestablished in Jordan, these camps were supervised by the Marines, and the arming of ISIS is all American.”
http://www.syrianews.cc/isis-the-bombshell-interview-to-impeach-obama/

Obama’s Abuse of Powers - 2013

OBAMA BYPASSES CONGRESS, GIVES $1.5 BILLION TO MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/03/21/obama-bypasses-congress-gives-1-5-billion-to-muslim-brotherhood

Obama Unilaterally Pulls Support for Egypt as Morsi Fights Against Taliban Terrorists
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/10/12/Obama-Pulls-Support-Egypt

White House Admits CIA Director Brennan Was “Secretly” In Kiev
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-14/white-house-admits-cia-director-brennan-was-secretly-kiev

Working for Qatar
The Truth Behind the War in Syria: The Qatari Natural Gas Pipeline – Obama’s War for Oil
http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/the-truth-behind-the-war-in-syria-the-qatari-natural-gas-pipeline-obamas-war-for-oil/

Barack Obama’s choice for CIA chief ‘converted to Islam’ former FBI agent claims. John Guandolo claims John Brennan converted while in Saudi Arabia - 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277524/Obamas-choice-CIA-chief-converted-Islam-says-FBI-agent.html#ixzz36pfgjN9C

While Qatar, US, and Iran seem to “improving relations” bur are covertly working together, the rest of the Middle East realizes what is going on and Qatar is shunned.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26517134

Afghanistan’s narcotics problems grow worse - 2014
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2014/01/15/14124/afghanistans-narcotics-problems-grow-worse

How the Taliban got their hands on modern US missiles (CIA) - 2014
http://nypost.com/2014/06/08/how-the-taliban-got-their-hands-on-modern-us-missiles/

Syrian’s Rebels Desribe US backed Training in Qatar
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/foreign-affairs-defense/syria-arming-the-rebels/syrian-rebels-describe-u-s-backed-training-in-qatar/

Pipeline Predicament: The Ukraine-Syria-Russia-U.S. gas nexus
http://www.tehrantimes.com/component/content/article/52-guests/114806-pipeline-predicament-the-ukraine-syria-russia-us-gas-nexus

Sources: Syrian jihad coming to Egypt with help from Turkey, Qatar and Obama
http://www.worldtribune.com/2014/04/14/sources-syrian-jihad-coming-egypt-help-turkey-qatar-obama/

Seeds of Terror
How heroin is bankrolling the Taliban and al Qaeda.
http://failuremag.com/feature/article/seeds_of_terror/#ixzz35QhbgQ8K

Drug shipments off of Africa have “significantly increased since 2009”
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-article-display-1.asp?xfile=data/international/2014/June/international_June26.xml&section=international

Hezbollah: Hezbollah was conceived by Muslim clerics and funded by Iran in the 80’s. Its leaders were followers of Ayatollah Khomeini, and its forces were trained and organized by a contingent of 1,500 Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

Drug trafficking, kidnapping fund al Qaeda
By Rachel Ehrenfeld, Special to CNN -May 4, 2011
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/03/ehrenfeld.al.qaeda.funding/

Qatar and US collusion
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/24-01-2013/123571-qatar_usa-0/

Qatar used as transit point by drug traffickers: Expert 2013
http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/news/qatar/253421/qatar-used-as-transit-point-by-drug-traffickers-expert-

Obama secretly released high risk Taliban terrorists to the care of Qatar. (Qatar is where the US established for Taliban headquarters in 2011.)
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-offers-the-taliban-a-new-mideast-headquarters-2011-9

Islamic Revolutionaries under any name you google are tied to the Heroin trade along with most other drugs, as well as human trafficking.
http://www.newsweek.com/2013/06/12/talibans-new-role-afghanistans-drug-mafia-237524.html

Heroin production hits record levels in Afghanistan - study
http://rt.com/news/156128-afghanistan-drugs-usa-heroin/

Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production
http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053

World Leaders Lambast Obama’s ‘Failures’ in the Middle East
July 25, 2014 by Raymond Ibrahim
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/raymond-ibrahim/world-leaders-lambast-obamas-failures-in-the-middle-east/

Morsi ex wife Threatens to expose Muslim Brotherhood Special Relationship with Obama Administration
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/morsis-wife-threatens-to-publish-letters-from-hillary-clinton-exposing-special-relationship-between-muslim-brotherhood-and-obama-administration


4 posted on 09/02/2014 5:37:21 AM PDT by mgist (Semper Vigils)
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To: mgist

The tendency of political leaders is to react rather than to act. The reaction is based on self preservation and then local or national preservation.

If viewed within the context of realigning national borders badly drawn a hundred years ago, there is no need for international reaction. It was international action that created the problem in the first place. The border situation is sorting its self out with the help of a very few well placed bombs and provision of new arms.

It should be obvious to all by now that clinging to the vanished concepts of Syria and Iraq is futile. Both nations are in reality, gone.

Lastly consider Egypt. There was gloom and doom on a spectacularly massive scale. It is gone. Cooler heads prevailed. Morsi et al are gone, many actually dead. The chicken little’s never insert time and rationality and most of all, money into the equation

These factors are to the detriment f the fanatic wackos.

Histry is a process not an event


5 posted on 09/02/2014 5:52:44 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: mgist; Jim Robinson; kristinn; IBD editorial writer; WashingtonSource; SeekAndFind; Nachum; ...

Good article, thanks.

A point of discussion that needs to be added is that now that Obama has removed the US Marines and the US Army, (Obamacode: “boots on the ground”), from the Russian and Militant Muslim Theaters of War, both Russia and the Militant Muslims know that they are assured of quickly obtaining ground control of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Both the Russians and the Militant Muslims know that their rapid ground advances will end once the Impeachment Proceedings begin on Obama.

Russia needs to have land and Naval control of the north shore of the Black Sea and western Turkey in order to have unfettered access from its only warm water Naval port in Crimea to the Mediterranean Sea.

With the Militant Muslims, (al Qadea, al Sharia, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, ISIS, etc., etc., etc.), controlling the land transport of much of the World’s Oil, and Russia’s Navy controlling the Eastern Mediterranean shipment of Oil, Israel would have no choice but to become a neutral Nation - - - the “Switzerland” of the Middle East.

The Democrat control of the US Senate and Administration, has resulted in a strategy of Domestic Financial weakness, betrayal to America’s Allies, and exponentially emboldened Military planners in Russia and the Muslim Militant community.

Will Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner continue to financially support the Obama-Reid-Jarrett Regime Strategy of ceding control of the Eastern Mediteranian/Middle East to the Russians and Militant Muslims?


6 posted on 09/02/2014 7:57:41 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Joe biden will be of no help..

hes still calling ISIS.. IT’S IT...and is apparently deeply concerned that Iraq is being hammered by an Ice Cream Sandwich


7 posted on 09/02/2014 8:24:10 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (on the net.... we are are ALL RGB-Americans)
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To: MeshugeMikey

The specific name of an organization of Militant Muslims is used as a distraction by the Obama-Reid-Jarrett Regime so that the basic enemy is not perceived to be as large.

The specific names that are used is to the stripes on a tiger, as the Militant Muslims are to a tiger.


8 posted on 09/02/2014 8:36:55 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf
a tiger cant changes it stripe

"worldwide" islam remains "worldwide" islam


9 posted on 09/02/2014 9:06:40 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (on the net.... we are are ALL RGB-Americans)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Radical Islam, that is.

Another major factor involved in all of this is that drugs are drive behind all terrorist activity. The Ukraine is a major drug trafficking and money laundering hub.

The Ukraine strategically located by EU, the way Mexico is to the US. Soros had his corrupt tentacles all over the country, establishing his manchurian politicos for years, probably just as another avenue to manipulate EU. Putin wasn’t going to lose his turf.

The amount of Afghan Heroin flooding world markets is out of this world. After 9/11 almost every major Wall Street bank was caught laundering drug money.

Why the cover up? We are reliving the opium wars, except now it is the West that is under attack, and our leaders happen to be complicit.

I have no doubt the banister cartels are running the show. They obviously have influence and power beyond most people’s ability to even comprehend.


10 posted on 09/02/2014 11:08:35 AM PDT by mgist (Semper Vigils)
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To: bert

http://www.tradition.com/about-us/bio/herve-de-carmoy.aspx

Hervé de Carmoy of the TriLateral Commission
French national, aged 75 - Director

Appointment at Compagnie Financière Tradition: First elected on 29 May 1997. Re-elected on 6 May 2010 for a three-year term.

Offices held in governing and supervisory bodies of large public or private, Swiss or foreign corporations, foundations or institutions at 31 December 2012: Chairman of the Supervisory Boards of Sydney & London Properties (U.K.) and Etam Développement (France).

Education: Graduate of the Institut d’Etudes Politiques, Paris. MBA from Cornell University.

Career history: Hervé de Carmoy joined Chase Manhattan Bank in 1963, where he was Chief Executive for western Europe. In 1978, he joined Midland Bank plc, and in 1984 was appointed Chief Executive, Director and member of the Executive Committee of the Midland plc Group,London. From 1988 to 1991, he was Deputy Director of Société Générale of Belgium. In 1992 he was appointed President and Chief Executive of the BIMP, and then from 1998 to 2004, he was Managing Partner of Rhône Group LLC, New York. He was appointed Executive Chairman and then Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Almatis GmbH Frankfurt, world leader in alumina chemical products, then Executive Chairman of Almatis Holding B.V. (Netherlands). He is presently Chairman of the Supervisory Boards of Sydney & London Properties (U.K) and Etam Développement (France).


11 posted on 09/02/2014 11:30:50 AM PDT by mgist (Semper Vigils)
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"A point of discussion that needs to be added is that now that Obama has removed the US Marines and the US Army, (Obamacode: “boots on the ground”), from the Russian and Militant Muslim Theaters of War, both Russia and the Militant Muslims know that they are assured of quickly obtaining ground control of the Eastern Mediterranean."

Thanks, Graewoulf.

12 posted on 09/02/2014 6:17:29 PM PDT by LucyT
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