Posted on 08/14/2014 3:48:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A promotional image for Anonymous’s #OpFerguson.
David, a.k.a. Pharoah, doesn’t hold a political office or opine for CNN. But this week, the 14-year-old hacker mounted what might have been one of the more personally damaging attacks against Ferguson, Mo.’s embattled police department: the name — and the address, and the Social Security number — of St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar.
That’s not all. Pharoah, a self-proclaimed member of the loosely affiliated hacker collective Anonymous, has also obtained the name and Social Security number of a Ferguson police officer he believes was involved in 18-year-old Michael Brown’s fatal shooting last weekend. The Ferguson Police Department has said that name is not correct — though that doesn’t faze Pharoah.
“The Ferguson PD actually tweeted at us saying that this is not the officer responsible for the murder,” Pharoah said in a lengthy chat via IRC, Anonymous’s preferred communication platform. “But they could be lying.”
And if they’re not?
“There would be no collateral damage if the government would be answerable to its citizens,” another Anonymous member said....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
You can’t uphold the law by breaking the law.
All government employees must be accountable just like their employers are.
/johnny
Absolutely, but that’s another issue.
All of my cilantro went to seed a month ago.
Granted. however, I was specifically addressing having one’s identity protected for their (and their families) protection from mobs and assassins seeking retaliating before due process or for the sake of national security.
If I had shot the ‘youth’, would my identity be protected until the due process of law had run? Didn’t think so.
The cop shouldn’t be more protected than anyone else.
/johnny
The correct answer at this point and in this situation is not yet. We don’t have the whole story. But, I certainly could envision a situation in the near future when the agents of a corrupt government are held accountable for their crimes when the state refuses to act.
What should we do if we got Lois Lerner’s info or the other hacks that lied to congress never to face justice?
Again, granted. But, I asked the way I did because of the blanket “No one” who works for government thing. I’m assuming you wouldn’t want members of a SEAL team made public after some clandestine operation. I mean, there are exceptions, right?
Noooo. they HAVE special “rights” now and look how they abuse them! They should keep their SS numbers, but not their identities.
Why? What is the moral justification for doing something as a government employee that can’t be justified as a private citizen?
/johnny
I’m having a hard time believing that a PD would say that the identified officer was not the one who “ murdered” the victim. That is a legal decision made by a jury/judge. Most PD would say something like “ the officer identified was not involved in the shooting, or killing, or death.”
Gwjack
Okay, so you’re good with the identity of special ops members being made public to foreign enemies of our Republic. Got it. Just wanted clarification.
I ask for the moral justification. I made no assertion.
/johnny
The police have gone to great lengths to establish that they are free to lie to suspects. Since we are all probably suspected of doing something illegal, I'm sure this includes all of us.
Perhaps someone can educate me as to whether there are any limits to such lying.
Can the cops tell you "no" if you ask whether you have a right to a lawyer? Can they lie by telling you that no bail has been set when in fact it has? Can they tell you that they will charge your mother with a crime if you don't confess?
I, for one, follow the advice, "Don't talk to the police."
Don’t Talk to Police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
It's important to recognize that, even if you tell the absolute truth, you can create suspicion about yourself and possible evidence against you, if some other credible witness mistakenly contradicts you about an otherwise unimportant detail.
> David, a.k.a. Pharoah
doesn’t know how to spell. After he’s identified, his life shouldn’t be worth two cents. That’s my two cents.
Sig Heil
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