DREAMers deserve freedom from fear

Star Democrat ^ | August 10, 2014 | STEVEN AND COKIE ROBERTS

[dfwgator]

If these people are so good, they need to return home and improve life in their countries.

[OldNewYork]

Illegal aliens deserve nothing but deportation. If we're feeling generous, we could loan the ones brought here by their illegal alien parents money for a bus ticket back wherever they came from.

[Kid Shelleen]

A reasonable person could support an argument to legalize people like Karina Velasco. That is what Reagan wanted but that is not what the Democrats want. They want blanket amnesty and endless government entitlements PLUS special bilingual treatment.
I am always skeptical of these types of articles. I find hard to believe that someone who put himself through college could not find the means to start the naturalization process.

[RedMDer]

All contributions are for the current quarter expenses.


FReepathon day 40.

Two percent a day keeps the 404 away.

[kabar]

Then leave and re-enter legally. Especially if they are givers. That way we can try to sift out the takers.

Most of them wouldn't even qualify for a tourist visa, let alone a permanent immigrant visa (green card.)

If you legalize the "Dreamers," you are essentially creating a never-ending stream of illegals. What many people do not know it that it is not necessary to have your parents bring you here to qualify for Obama's backdoor amnesty. You can come unaccompanied. And you can be up to age 30 to apply.

[kabar]

The 1986 amnesty was a blanket amnesty. You had to be here at least 5 years to apply. But the process was rife with fraud with phony document mills being set up within blocks of the processing centers. The USG estimated 1 million would apply, but the true number turned out to be 2.7 million.

The 1986 amnesty was supposed to be a one time affair. The proponents promised it would never happen again.

[nothingnew]

What does "whresponsibleaying" mean?

FMCDH(BITS)

[lonestar]

American citizens deserve freedom from fear of DREAMers.

[dfwgator]

All the 1986 Amnesty did was guarantee there would be another...the precedent was set.

Not Reagan’s best moment.

[amihow]

Don’t buy into the dreamer label. Call them dream thieves or dream stealers. All of her family needs to repair the damage they have done to this country, then apply for entry.

[Kid Shelleen]

Thanks for the info FR-iend.
What I was trying to convey was that the Democrats would not have any requirements for residency. Someone who just came across the border last week would be treated the same as someone living in the USA for ten years regardless of criminal history.
I believe the Reagan amnesty was only intended for illegals who did not commit serious crimes and had "sufficient ties to American life".
Do I understand correctly?
I think we both agree the Reagan amnesty was a mistake. You can't make good faith comprises with dishonest people.

[kabar]

Ed Meese said it was Reagan’s biggest mistake. When you reward something, you get more of it.

[Bigg Red]

Yes, DREAMers deserve to be free from fear. Send them back home and let them be free from fear there.

And whose SS# did this female — assuming she actually exists — steal in order to work?

[Bigg Red]

Look I understand it was her parents’ choice and not hers to break the law. But if your parent robs a bank, do you get to keep the money?

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Perfect answer!

[bgill]

Dreamers fear nothing. It’s the US taxpayer who lives in fear.

[kabar]

What I was trying to convey was that the Democrats would not have any requirements for residency. Someone who just came across the border last week would be treated the same as someone living in the USA for ten years regardless of criminal history.

The 2007 McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill essentially said that all those who here would be eligible for amnesty. Their status would legalized immediately (Z visa) and then they would be processed using background checks, etc. The problem is that with immediate legalization, you essentially stop all enforcement. And the bad guys won't apply, an estimated 2 million according to McCain. In any event, a bad idea. Not only would you legalize the 12 to 20 million, but they would sponsor their relatives thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. The Heritage Foundation estimated at the time, 66 million more legal immigrants would join their relatives. Currently, Heritage estimates an amnesty would cost a net $6.3 trillion for just the 12 million.

I believe the Reagan amnesty was only intended for illegals who did not commit serious crimes and had "sufficient ties to American life".

They couldn't be felons, they could have up to three misdemeanors. There was no requirement that they had to have sufficient ties to American life, only that they had to be here for at least five years to be eligible to apply. They also had to learn English. You can use the link below to see the full text of the amnesty bill (Simpson-Mazzoli)

Simpson-Mazzoli Act

It was definitely a mistake along with the Immigration Act of 1965. When historians many years from now write about the rise and fall of America, they will point to those two pieces of legislation, especially the latter, as the reasons why America fell. Demography is destiny.

[kabar]

You don’t have to be brought here by your parents to qualify for DACA. You just have to get here by age 16.

[Steven Tyler]

They can respect laws and apply to become Citizens.

Lots of folks came from Eastern Europe for a three month vacay. They worked at menial jobs for cash. THEN. THEY. WENT. HOME.

[GeronL]

There was a report that 70% of the illegals in Texas are on welfare, and at some point they took up 1/7th of the prison space in California (before Obama let 60,000+ of them go)

[Shimmer1]

I deserve to not have cancer. My best friend deserved a job when he was out of a job for 6 years, many people “deserve” many things. But I’m not going to steal or defraud my doctor and my best friend didn’t cheat to get by. What part of HONEST and NOT CRIMINAL do they not understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, their parents brought them here. So what. It’s still against the law and by God we Americans are tired of paying for it.