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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Firing squad supposedly has an uncertainty factor that is cited as a plus. One of the shooters has a blank, so no shooter knows with certainty that he killed anybody. Supposedly. I’ve never shot blanks, but can’t you tell if you’re firing a blank?


9 posted on 07/24/2014 4:01:25 AM PDT by samtheman
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Not really. When we did field exercises we had an attachment at the end of the weapon called a blank firing adaptor. A blank-firing adapter or blank-firing attachment (BFA), sometimes called a blank adapter or blank attachment, is a device used in conjunction with blank ammunition. Blank firing adapters are required for allowing blanks to cycle most automatic firearms. It can also be a safety feature designed so if a live round is mistakenly fired, most of the energy is spent smashing through the BFA reducing both the range and damage inflicted. A BFA may also divert the hot gases from a blank discharge out to the sides, reducing the risk of injury to the target of an aimed shot. But for firing only one round a BFA wouldn't be needed and I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference.

12 posted on 07/24/2014 4:08:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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” I’ve never shot blanks, but can’t you tell if you’re firing a blank?”

Not really, at least not with the rifles I’ve shot.


14 posted on 07/24/2014 4:20:11 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: samtheman

Yep


16 posted on 07/24/2014 4:29:42 AM PDT by Rome2000
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A blank won’t have the same recoil that a standard round of ammunition will have. The reduced gas pressure is the reason for the device to make the rifle function. Now whether someone would notice that he had fired a blank when only one round was fired, I don’t know....


18 posted on 07/24/2014 4:38:46 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: samtheman

Seems like it would be fairly easy to have a machine or device fire multiple simultaneous rounds. One switch or button could fire them all. You could even have a timer so no direct human intervention would be required.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 4:48:53 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: samtheman
A basic law of physics, one of Newton's Three Laws: For every action force, there is an equal but opposite reaction force. To propel a bullet out of a barrel at 2,400 fps takes a tremendous force. The equal and opposite reaction force required by Newton (perhaps minus a little to cycle the rifle or diverted by a muzzle brake, compensator, etc.) is the recoil. No bullet, no recoil.

Oh, you can play games: you can send out some wadding or something similar, not use a muzzle brake, etc., but it won't feel like you've fired a real bullet - unless they've repealed the laws of physics in the last 30 years unbeknownst to me, or have invented some really clever device that delivers a reaction force without an accompanying action force (IOW, repealed the laws of physics). I've fired hundreds of blanks. Never felt the slightest hint of recoil.

29 posted on 07/24/2014 5:38:13 AM PDT by LibWhacker (A New WPA: Hire blacks to surround illegal enclaves and round up job-stealing illegal aliens)
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To: samtheman

Long ago (1964) I shot live ammo and blanks at ROTC summer camp. Yes, there is a big difference. With a live round the bullet totally blocks the barrel of the rifle, occluding the lands as well as the grooves of the rifling, meaning the propellant applies a huge amount of force to drive the bullet down the barrel. Under the laws of physics, that force goes both forward and backwards, causing the recoil. With a 30-06 or a .308 that recoil can be quite substantial. OTOH, with a blank there’s only a bit of packing at the front of the cartridge case that the charge easily sends down the weapon’s barrel; thus, little or no recoil.


34 posted on 07/24/2014 7:02:51 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: samtheman
"but can’t you tell if you’re firing a blank?",/i>

Absolutely!

36 posted on 07/24/2014 8:03:47 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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