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We, the people are violent and filled with rage: A nation spinning apart on its Independence Day
Salon ^ | July 4, 2014 | Jim Sleeper

Posted on 07/04/2014 1:39:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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There was no room for a "barf alert" but the headline kind of tells it all. Notice anything similar in all those "alleged" murderers pictured above?
1 posted on 07/04/2014 1:39:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“Vulcan conservative advocates”?


2 posted on 07/04/2014 1:42:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Another sign of American decline: American writers can’t write anything that isn’t under 40,000 words. Phew!

P.S.: Vet, thanks for all the posting you do. How you do it, I don’t know but I thank you.


3 posted on 07/04/2014 1:44:17 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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“Capitalism run amok”?

What Horse manure. Capitalism (the economic dimension of freedom) stymied is part of the problem. The takeover of our educational system and media by socialists is the rest.

Resistance is the answer, just like it was in 1770-1776.


4 posted on 07/04/2014 1:48:00 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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capitalism run amok

I guess I sort of agree, in the sense that crony "capitalism" where the most leftist-schlong-sucking, most PC-fascist companies get the playing field tilted in their favor by a government that has no business being involved in the first place. That's certainly a sick, twisted form of capitalism if one can even call it such. But if he means "unfettered", as I'm sure he does, then I want to know where he lives so I can go there. Our present form of capitalism is about as unfettered as a mob hit-victim poured into the concrete of some building.

5 posted on 07/04/2014 1:48:53 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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School shootings, hatred, capitalism Socialism run amok: This 4th of July, we are in the midst of a tragic public derangement.

Fixed it.

6 posted on 07/04/2014 1:49:31 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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I believe they are mostly democrats but where are the Tsarnaev brothers?


7 posted on 07/04/2014 1:50:45 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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8 posted on 07/04/2014 1:53:38 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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No surprise, really, that the Country is headed down the tubes. Those in authority have long been laboring and conniving to expunge any mention of God from our memories and daily concourse; and to forbid any recognition of Him by our military, etc. IMHO


9 posted on 07/04/2014 1:53:48 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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“salon”. What more do we need to know? Maybe an endorsement from huffpo for the daily koz?


10 posted on 07/04/2014 1:54:47 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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““Capitalism run amok”?”

Yeah, that caught my eye too. I would say “socialism run amok is more accurate.


11 posted on 07/04/2014 1:55:19 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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Salon betrays their ideological bent in the very first sentence.


12 posted on 07/04/2014 1:55:21 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Rest in peace Eli. Thanks for the pic Tijeras_Slim.


13 posted on 07/04/2014 1:55:47 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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I thought it appropriate.


14 posted on 07/04/2014 1:56:51 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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“...if you’re gonna shoot...shoot, don’t talk”. Coming.


15 posted on 07/04/2014 1:57:06 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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They’ve been fired mostly by young, white American citizens at other white citizens, and by American soldiers at other American soldiers, inside the very institutions where republican virtues and beliefs are nurtured and defended.

Look in the mirror, Sleeper. Are you saying the solution is more of this 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their ideological litters?

Abe will explain from "the other side."

[America] initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.


16 posted on 07/04/2014 1:58:15 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Lock, Load and Rock and Roll!


17 posted on 07/04/2014 1:59:16 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: Still Thinking; 2ndDivisionVet; All
I guess I sort of agree, in the sense that crony “capitalism”

Few will go here. At the root is the rottenness of the political and cultural establishment and the rotten fruit that are the products of their actions. The people who lead this nation literally despise the people they supposedly lead. I mean this as a literal truth. The political and much of the commercial and military establishment disdain the likes of those who post here with a true visceral loathing. The blackamoors and the illegals and Latinos are considered much more favorably . Not because the K Street types identify with them (a good many in academia and a fair number of second tier types in the government do also. Eric Holder seems to be the only member of the Permanent Inner Party to be one who identifies with these people and wants as much harm as possible to come to white Americans out of true racial hatred) . But because the mostly white middle class still gives the ruling class outback and constantly slows the creation of the New World Order of a borderless world where capital and labor can be shifted around to give the greatest marginal returns to the oligarchs of the ruling class. In order to achieve their goals the mostly white middle class has to be broken culturally, damaged significantly economically and its demographic power greatly diminished by flooding the country with low skilled dark skinned immigrants from cultures that are the most difficult to assimilate, and then making sure a majority never assimilate and become a permanent angry antagonistic under class that can be used to terrorize the remaining white middle class.

18 posted on 07/04/2014 2:08:33 PM PDT by robowombat
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“individuals could govern themselves together without having to impose religious doctrines or mystical narratives of tribal blood or soil”

lol, no mention of what it was actually about... big government


19 posted on 07/04/2014 2:16:28 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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Whoa! Does this Salon scribbler wrap his head in duct tape every night before donning his tinfoil helmet?

IMO he’s describing caliphated Iraq or central Mexico, not this country. Sure we’ve got deep societal problems, but when I drive twice a month across three states & back, I don’t feel the need to arm up like Mad Max.

Los Angeles County or East New Jersey or Detroit, maybe, but there’s lots of relatively peaceful hinterlands out there.

The author doesn’t like “gun peddlers”. That means he doesn’t like lawful gun owners very much either.

Wants the culture war to get a lot worse, I believe.


20 posted on 07/04/2014 2:18:45 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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