Posted on 06/23/2014 4:34:44 AM PDT by marktwain
The police are quite aware that frequently the first call to 911 will be the perp, particularly in domestic violence situations. Making the first call gives one no advantage whatsoever.
THANK YOU? those 7 rules explain exactly how i feel. I will print them out.
Race issues is what led to that unfortunate policy.
Nonsense, warning shots and revealing your position? That isn’t a situation when warning shots are used.
Precious resources and lethal to bystanders? My Glock 17 and firing into the ground?
Malfunction? Because you only get 1 shot out of your Glock so it has to count?
In a confrontation where you can’t get the man to see reason, pumping two rounds in the ground in front of him and then pointing it at his chest will really get his attention.
Warning shots are great, it may not be suitable for the terrified and weak, but for people capable of asserting some control over situations, some physical presence, it gives another powerful assertive tool to diffuse situations.
If guns are used a couple of million times a year to diffuse situations, then clearly your gun does not need to draw blood every time it is pulled.
Actually, the ratio is probably even higher than that. The statistical studies vary all over the map, depending (typically) on the prejudices of the author. The best work is probably by Gary Kleck, who started out anti-self-defense, but switched his position based on his research. I believe his number was on the order of 6,000,000 defensive gun uses (DGU) per year.
Contrast that with Jens Ludwig (rabidly anti-gun), who started out to debunk Kleck's work, but whose own raw numbers showed defensive gun usages on the order of 20,000,000 DGU per year. He spent most of the rest of his report DEBUNKING HIS OWN DATA. Hilarious and sad simultaneously.
Good job, Flow-da!
I read the title and was afraid it was going to be a cave, given all the whining about SYG during the Zimmerman trial.
"Warning shots" tend to violate this: Always be sure of your target.
Was nervous reading the headline, but it sounds like a needed change.
Cool...
1973-74, there was a TV show called the Snoop Sisters starring Helen Hayes and Mildred Natwick as two older amateur sleuths.
One exchange with a suspected felon went something like this, Suspected Felon to Helen Hayes as Agatha Snoop, "Madam, I know the law."
Helen Hayes' reply, "Scallywags always do."
There were only 5 episodes as it rotated on Wednesdays with Banacek and a couple of other shows, but the ladies were a delight to watch.
Helen Hayes' character was Ernesta Snoop. Not Agatha Snoop.
I don’t think this is the reform that Fat Al and The Race Baiters were looking for. lol
Those who have know what can go wrong likely will. Do it how ever you chose. Some say they know it all and have the stones to stand and waste ammo into the “ground” etc. How many live on concrete and pavement? C’mon, friend.
Best;
They were hoping more for something along the lines of the
“Thug protection act of 2014”
As someone who has used an unloaded single shot 410, to control 4 robbers, please don’t take away my options.
Most confrontations when one is trying not to kill a neighbor or family member and one has already displayed the gun to no effect and the person wants to fire a warning shot, will take place in a situation where someone can fire a warning shot, safely, more safely than shooting someone in the heart.
“Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds.”
“Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers.”
The Criminal Protection Act
"Marrisa claimed that she fired a shot that qualified under the "stand your ground" law, but a judge ruled otherwise. She faced a mandatory 10 years in jail."
She claimed it was self-defense. The "Stand Your Ground" principle is only one element of self-defense, it isn't the entire law.
And she faces three counts of the 20 mandatory, for 60 years. Not 10.
"The new law allows people to threaten the use of deadly force, even to the point of firing shots that do not hit anyone, to claim the "stand your ground" defense,..."
The new law says nothing about allowing warning shots. It says the threat of force should be treated the same as the actual use would be, as long as the threat does not risk public safety. That would rule out warning shots most of the time.
Also, again it cites "stand your ground" when it should just be saying "self-defense". SYG has nothing to do with it.
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