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The IRS scandal explodes
Flopping Aces ^ | 06-17-14 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/17/2014 11:05:05 AM PDT by Starman417

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Over the last few weeks tension has been growing over the Lois Lerner/IRS scandal and today it has exploded. Lerner has been rather cavalier about the whole thing:

Lois G. Lerner, the employee at the center of the IRS tea party targeting scandal, wanted to recover files from her computer hard drive after it crashed in 2011, but when told it was impossible, she took a philosophical view.

“Sometimes stuff just happens,” she said in a 2011 email to the IRS tech staff that tried to recover documents from the hard drive.

Problem is, it's just not possible.

Norman Cillo, an Army veteran who worked in intelligence and a former program manager at Microsoft, argued it is very difficult to lose emails for good and laid out six reasons why he believes Congress is “being lied to” about the Lerner emails:

1. I believe the government uses Microsoft Exchange for their email servers. They have built-in exchange mail database redundancy. So, unless they did not follow Microsofts recommendations they are telling a falsehood. You can see by the diagram below that if you have three servers in a DAG you have three copies of the database.

2. Every IT organization that I know of has hotswappable disk drives. Every server built since 2000 has them. Meaning that if a single disk goes bad it’s easy to replace.

3. ALL Servers use some form of RAID technology. The only way that data can be totally lost (Meaning difficult to bring back) is if more than a single disk goes before the first bad disk is replaced. In the diagram below you can see that its possible to lose a single disk and still keep the data.

4. If the server crashed (Hardware failure other than disks), then the disks that contain the DATA for the Exchange database is still available because the server hardware and disks are exchangeable. Meaning that if I have another server with the same hardware in it, I can put the disks in and everything should boot right up.

5. All email servers in a professional organization use TAPE backup. Meaning if all the above fails, you can restore the server using the TAPE backups.

6. If they are talking about her local PC, then it’s a simple matter of going to the servers which have the email and getting them from the servers. If the servers have removed the data you can still get them by using the backups of the servers to recover the emails.

And were it possible, it should never have happened in the first place. The IRS is required to make hard copies of emails just in case the worst happened:

“The [Federal Records Act] requires agencies to make and preserve records of agency decisions, policies, and essential transactions, and to take steps to safeguard against the loss of agency records,” said House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, who subpoenaed IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Monday.

The IRS’s own definition of the Federal Records Act makes clear that emails must be saved and documented, according to an instructional page for employees on the IRS website.

“The Federal Records Act applies to email records just as it does to records you create using other media,” according to the IRS. “Emails are records when they are: Created or received in the transaction of agency business; Appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government’s function and activities; or Valuable because of the information they contain.”

“If you create or receive email messages during the course of your daily work, you are responsible for ensuring that you manage them properly,” according to the IRS. “The Treasury Department’s current email policy requires emails and attachments that meet the definition of a federal record be added to the organization’s files by printing them (including the essential transmission data) and filing them with related paper records. If transmission and receipt data are not printed by the email system, annotate the paper copy.”

Now we learn that the computers of six more IRS employees involved in the investigation have conveniently crashed.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: gettherope; impeachnow; irs; lerner; loislerner; obama
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To: Starman417

Contact the NSA and get the back up files!


21 posted on 06/17/2014 11:20:53 AM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: Starman417

Here is my question, is Obama this stupid or is he setting something up. He may be trying to get Republicans to go after him before the election thus motivating his base and taking along liberal whites with them.

But if that’s the case I have a news flash for the President, no one is going to lose sleep over the IRS, they are hated by everyone on every level. So if Republicans go whole hog after the IRS, it won’t hurt them a bit.

And, if the Prez proves to be collateral damage down the road, oh well.


22 posted on 06/17/2014 11:21:19 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Starman417

Even a remote chance we can stop using hyperbole? “Explodes”, bombshell” etc. I’ve seen that in headlines for years and nothing ever comes of it. When something real occurs, i.e. prosecution, get back to me.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 11:22:36 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Starman417

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24 posted on 06/17/2014 11:26:31 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Starman417
No way they lost all the data, no way.
The evidence has to be bad enough that this was the only option for the cornered Rats in the White Hut.
They took a shot, knowing the MSM had their backs.
25 posted on 06/17/2014 11:28:28 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Starman417

0bama doesn’t even know about this development because it hasn’t been reported on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN.


26 posted on 06/17/2014 11:30:56 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: The Cajun

I would be willing to bet the e-mails explicitly show that 0bama hisself knew about-approved-planned the IRS war on conservatives.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 11:32:17 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: The Cajun

OMG you just made my day. Hilarious!


28 posted on 06/17/2014 11:33:42 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: TigersEye
I say both Obama and the real person of power calling the shots,
Valerie Jarrett.
29 posted on 06/17/2014 11:39:33 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: FlJoePa
Thank you, thank you very much, LOL!
30 posted on 06/17/2014 11:40:39 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Kenny

Not everyone hates the IRS. People who are eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit get back more than they ever paid in. I am sure they like the IRS just fine.


31 posted on 06/17/2014 11:43:57 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: The Cajun

Better, but still not accurate. Work on it.

Your use of new material is appreciated, that old crap was getting.. well.. old.

So thumbs up for trying, keep it up.


32 posted on 06/17/2014 11:44:57 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Starman417
I'm sorry but this article is just adding to the confusion about the "lost" Emails.

Read the text in the image below where the subject is addressed by Lois Lerner way back in mid-2011. She is NOT TALKING ABOUT LOST EMAILS. She talking about some of the documents being irreplaceable. That is very possible. Put a Word document on your computer. Wipe out your disk. The .docx file could well be gone forever.

Not so with Emails as we all know. And, to me, the Lois Lerner Email shown below tells me that Lois Lerner knows that as well. Only some of the documents are "irreplaceable".

Now there is no doubt that the "Powers That Be" want to use her "Computer Crash" for cover. Let them try. But the Lois Lerner "Sometimes stuff just happens" has nothing to do with lost Emails. Just good old standard Excel and Word or PDF files most likely.

At least IMHO.


33 posted on 06/17/2014 11:47:47 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: sauropod

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34 posted on 06/17/2014 11:48:17 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: humblegunner
Your use of new material is appreciated, that old crap was getting.. well.. old.

The same can be said for your daily routine on FR, Li'l Buckaroo.

35 posted on 06/17/2014 11:51:13 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Starman417

They only need to run out the clock till Jan. 19, 2017.
Then Obama will pardon everybody.


36 posted on 06/17/2014 11:52:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: The Cajun
The same can be said for your daily routine on FR, Li'l Buckaroo.

I'm flattered that you pay so much attention.

As a premier subscriber, is there any particular issue you would like to see addressed?

37 posted on 06/17/2014 11:55:04 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Then Obama will pardon everybody.

Actually, he could pardon everybody anytime he wants...

38 posted on 06/17/2014 12:14:09 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: humblegunner
As a premier subscriber, is there any particular issue you would like to see addressed?

Just a regular old Freeper Li'l Buckaroo, my post #16 addressed that issue.

Put down the bottle a second and try to keep up.

39 posted on 06/17/2014 12:23:40 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: humblegunner; shibumi; Eaker; 50mm; TheOldLady
I'm flattered that you pay so much attention.

You should feel 'rather pleased with yourself'.

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ... spending time creating photoshop graphics about you shows there is no lack of love from your talented fans ...

40 posted on 06/17/2014 12:26:08 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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