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The IRS scandal explodes
Flopping Aces ^ | 06-17-14 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/17/2014 11:05:05 AM PDT by Starman417

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Over the last few weeks tension has been growing over the Lois Lerner/IRS scandal and today it has exploded. Lerner has been rather cavalier about the whole thing:

Lois G. Lerner, the employee at the center of the IRS tea party targeting scandal, wanted to recover files from her computer hard drive after it crashed in 2011, but when told it was impossible, she took a philosophical view.

“Sometimes stuff just happens,” she said in a 2011 email to the IRS tech staff that tried to recover documents from the hard drive.

Problem is, it's just not possible.

Norman Cillo, an Army veteran who worked in intelligence and a former program manager at Microsoft, argued it is very difficult to lose emails for good and laid out six reasons why he believes Congress is “being lied to” about the Lerner emails:

1. I believe the government uses Microsoft Exchange for their email servers. They have built-in exchange mail database redundancy. So, unless they did not follow Microsofts recommendations they are telling a falsehood. You can see by the diagram below that if you have three servers in a DAG you have three copies of the database.

2. Every IT organization that I know of has hotswappable disk drives. Every server built since 2000 has them. Meaning that if a single disk goes bad it’s easy to replace.

3. ALL Servers use some form of RAID technology. The only way that data can be totally lost (Meaning difficult to bring back) is if more than a single disk goes before the first bad disk is replaced. In the diagram below you can see that its possible to lose a single disk and still keep the data.

4. If the server crashed (Hardware failure other than disks), then the disks that contain the DATA for the Exchange database is still available because the server hardware and disks are exchangeable. Meaning that if I have another server with the same hardware in it, I can put the disks in and everything should boot right up.

5. All email servers in a professional organization use TAPE backup. Meaning if all the above fails, you can restore the server using the TAPE backups.

6. If they are talking about her local PC, then it’s a simple matter of going to the servers which have the email and getting them from the servers. If the servers have removed the data you can still get them by using the backups of the servers to recover the emails.

And were it possible, it should never have happened in the first place. The IRS is required to make hard copies of emails just in case the worst happened:

“The [Federal Records Act] requires agencies to make and preserve records of agency decisions, policies, and essential transactions, and to take steps to safeguard against the loss of agency records,” said House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, who subpoenaed IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Monday.

The IRS’s own definition of the Federal Records Act makes clear that emails must be saved and documented, according to an instructional page for employees on the IRS website.

“The Federal Records Act applies to email records just as it does to records you create using other media,” according to the IRS. “Emails are records when they are: Created or received in the transaction of agency business; Appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government’s function and activities; or Valuable because of the information they contain.”

“If you create or receive email messages during the course of your daily work, you are responsible for ensuring that you manage them properly,” according to the IRS. “The Treasury Department’s current email policy requires emails and attachments that meet the definition of a federal record be added to the organization’s files by printing them (including the essential transmission data) and filing them with related paper records. If transmission and receipt data are not printed by the email system, annotate the paper copy.”

Now we learn that the computers of six more IRS employees involved in the investigation have conveniently crashed.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: gettherope; impeachnow; irs; lerner; loislerner; obama
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1 posted on 06/17/2014 11:05:05 AM PDT by Starman417
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2 posted on 06/17/2014 11:06:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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(Excerpt) Read more at

Post it here.

3 posted on 06/17/2014 11:07:08 AM PDT by humblegunner
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“The Federal Records Act applies to email records just as it does to records you create using other media,” according to the IRS. “Emails are records when they are: Created or received in the transaction of agency business; Appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government’s function and activities; or Valuable because of the information they contain.”

Oops. Now we have the official policy, and it doesn't sound good for the poor unfortunate victims of a fantastically unlikely series of hard drive failures. Obstructing justice and altering evidence are crimes.

5 posted on 06/17/2014 11:07:56 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Paging the NSA...


6 posted on 06/17/2014 11:08:01 AM PDT by LadyBuck (Some day very soon, Life's little Twinkie gauge is gonna go......empty.)
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Post it here.

He would, but his hard drive crashed.

7 posted on 06/17/2014 11:10:10 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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There is no doubt that they are lying. The sycophants, with the approval of the white house, are lying to the Congress and the people. The media are giving the liars 100% backing.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 11:11:44 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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I think this is one of those cases where the cover-up isn’t actually worse than the crime, but that may be the most we can get them on. Kind of like nabbing Capone with tax evasion.


9 posted on 06/17/2014 11:11:44 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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I still remember Sam Elliot in the Falstaff beer commercials.


10 posted on 06/17/2014 11:12:31 AM PDT by Mark17 ( Rudyard Kipling: it is unhealthy, for evil doers, to awaken the sleeping Saxon, and torque his jaws)
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Ummm...I think it’s Special Prosecutor Time. Maybe half-past.


11 posted on 06/17/2014 11:12:34 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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Yawn, I fart bigger explosions that this will ever be.


12 posted on 06/17/2014 11:12:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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I like Floppingaces............


13 posted on 06/17/2014 11:13:32 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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No one needs to read all that. Every human being alive knows the obama regime are liars. Those idiots will lie even when the truth would serve them better!


14 posted on 06/17/2014 11:13:50 AM PDT by subterfuge (Hey NSA snoop, get a real job you idiot!)
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If the Mainstream media decides not to report it, it hasn’t exploded, it has FIZZLED....

Until the media goes on this 24/7, it will just be ignored by the sheeple.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 11:14:09 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: All; humblegunner

16 posted on 06/17/2014 11:14:43 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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This regime needs to understand - clean it up or face the pitchforks and torches.


17 posted on 06/17/2014 11:15:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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I agree about the media, but where in he** are our statesmen we elected? All talk and no action!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 06/17/2014 11:17:50 AM PDT by Exit148
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". All email servers in a professional organization use TAPE backup. Meaning if all the above fails, you can restore the server using the TAPE backups.

Not quite true. The last place I worked at was getting rid of tape backup. Yes, there still are tape drives in use but more organizations are finding it safer and cheaper and faster to just backup to storage area networks (hard drives).

19 posted on 06/17/2014 11:18:09 AM PDT by StormEye
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Again, the White House cabal is mocking the Congress and the ignorant public. Without the interest of the MSM, no investigation can gain traction.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 11:19:45 AM PDT by Chaguito
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