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Idaho GOP moves toward dropping call for repeal of 17th Amendment
The Spokane Spokesman-Review ^ | June 13, 2014 | Betsy Z. Russell

Posted on 06/13/2014 7:26:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It was a bit lost in the hubbub over rules and credentials fights, but the platform committee at the Idaho Republican Party convention in Moscow today voted to remove one of the most controversial planks in the party’s platform: The one calling for repeal of the 17th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which would have the effect of doing away with direct election of U.S. senators and instead letting state legislatures choose senators. “I was the one who made the motion,” said Rep. Brandon Hixon, R-Caldwell, a delegate from Canyon County. “It passed the committee. Now it will go to the general assembly for a full vote.” That’ll happen on Saturday.

Dan Cravens of Bingham County proposed the change, saying under the current platform, the Idaho GOP is advocating removing Idaho voters’ ability to re-elect GOP Sens. Mike Crapo and Jim Risch. “The adoption of the language advocating the repeal of the 17th Amendment has placed a burden on Republican candidates throughout Idaho,” Cravens wrote in his proposal. “Candidates that agree to accept the tenets of the Idaho Republican Platform are forced to accept and defend the notion that the voters of Idaho, or any other state, should not have the right to elect their U.S. Senators.”

Hixon said, “Idahoans want their voices to be heard. … I can’t imagine taking the voting power away from all 1.6 million people in Idaho and giving it to just 105 people in the Idaho Legislature to elect our United States senators.”


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; 17thamendment; 2014issues; 2014midterms; id2014; idaho; repeal
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That's a damn shame.
1 posted on 06/13/2014 7:26:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Jacquerie

PING!


2 posted on 06/13/2014 7:27:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Of COURSE bacon is good for you!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Honestly, this is an issue I do not understand. I promise you, if the legislature of SC was in charge of senators, we wouldn’t have Tim Scott, but we would still have Lindsey Graham and we would never have had Jim DeMint. Repealing the 17th is not a panacea...


3 posted on 06/13/2014 7:30:45 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When explained, the reason for Senators being eleted by State Legislature make perfect.. Wonder if people would be for it, if explained the political rancor would die down if 17th Amendment would be repealed and “things’ would get done.


4 posted on 06/13/2014 7:30:58 PM PDT by scbison
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We could start by going one and one. One from the legislature and one popularily elected.


5 posted on 06/13/2014 7:33:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mamzelle

It’s intended to be structural. Having state governments represented is way to make states have an interest in restraining the feds.

It wouldn’t eliminate corruption. It would change its emphasis to the states and indirectly encourage people to vote with their feet, to move to less corrupt states or have face-to-face confrontations at state capitals.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 7:36:09 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We don’t need any stinking house of lords elected by their socialist cronies in state legislatures. We don’t need even more pork. Even the general electorate isn’t as much in favor of more regulations and taxes as the conniving legislators.


7 posted on 06/13/2014 7:39:29 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I would like to get rid of the 17th but asking people to give up their “right” to vote for senators is a high hurdle.

You might be able to change the way they’re elected so its not a popular vote. Maybe an electoral type of system where a certain number of votes are allotted to individual districts.

We definitely need recall power over senators.


8 posted on 06/13/2014 7:41:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Paladin2

Another good idea.


9 posted on 06/13/2014 7:42:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

Yes it is a shame .. and the reason is that when the States selected their senators - then the senators were usually selected because they adhered to the principles and policies of the governor of the state who appointed them.

The way it is now, the senators are all over the place .. and some of them are there specifically to be a thorn in the side of their Governor.


10 posted on 06/13/2014 7:44:03 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
See the people who have the most control over the state legislatures. They're becoming more desperate, because they know that the flow of debt will slow soon. As a result of the layoffs and office closings, they will lose much of their political influence.

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American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

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"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."


11 posted on 06/13/2014 7:47:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Awww it placed a burden on Republican candidates. Can’t any of these people do anything that is not partisan, but for the good of the U.S.?


12 posted on 06/13/2014 7:51:15 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Idahoans want their voices to be heard.”

That is what the House of Representatives is for, moron.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 7:51:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: CyberAnt

Senators have become like the perfumed princes of the realm.


14 posted on 06/13/2014 7:52:46 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Mamzelle

The people of the United States are already represented by the House of Representatives. Why would there be a second representation of the people?

The Senate is to represent the states.


15 posted on 06/13/2014 7:52:57 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Seems that Canyon County, Idaho needs to find itself a representative who understands the separation of powers.


16 posted on 06/13/2014 7:59:23 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am shocked that senators from either party would be opposed to such a measure and would bring pressure to bear against any such measure from whatever source.

Shocked I tell you, shocked!

Those damn uppity people thinking they know better.

When’s my Tee Time with the chief?


17 posted on 06/13/2014 8:05:35 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: lulu16

I think so. All hat and no cattle.


18 posted on 06/13/2014 8:05:37 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: Ray76

Also there always complaining about how much political campaign’s cost and that big money gives unfair advantage.

The old system would do away with both concerns.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 8:11:38 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: lulu16

It’s Rome all over again. The founders knew better, but the ruling class in the early 20th didn’t like that. They wanted Rome. And lo and behold, we have it!

What’s old is new again. I doubt I’ll live long enough to see where the founder’s vision will become new again. If ever.

But I sure as Hell hope it will.


20 posted on 06/13/2014 8:11:43 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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