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Have traditionalists gone AWOL?
The Marietta Daily Journal ^ | June 1, 2014 | Roger Hines

Posted on 06/02/2014 5:06:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Never has the minority worked so persistently to cram its agenda down the majority’s throat.

For decades, the homosexual lobby (the minority) has tried to impose its will on the general public (the majority), primarily through the courts. Ignoring the will of the people as expressed by state legislatures, the homosexual lobby has persuaded judges the will of the people should be overturned. The majority seems to offer little resistance, leaving the task to such organizations as the National Organization for Marriage, Concerned Women for America and the Family Research Council.

It appears that the majority doesn’t care, but they do. The problem is the majority is busy making a living. They are neither entertainers, corporate heads nor sports figures with time on their hands to protest.

Polls tell us the percentage of Americans who favor homosexual marriage is approaching 50 percent. I don’t believe it. It’s true, however, that since Massachusetts legalized same-sex marriage a decade ago, 17 other states and the District of Columbia have followed suit.

Even in the Bible belt, the LGBT (lesbian/gay/bisexual/Transgender) lobby appears to be making inroads. Georgia is a targeted state, aided by Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed and U.S. Representative John Lewis. In the past few months, the city councils of Oxford, Starkville and Hattiesburg, Miss., (all college towns) have passed resolutions praising “diversity” and declaring support for those who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. But we’re still talking about political elites, not regular folks.

Jerry Falwell, thou shouldst be living at this hour. America hath need of thee. She is a fen of moral confusion. Her pulpits are silent. Her chambers of commerce care only about commerce. Her political parties care only about votes, got any way possible. You were despised, but you had a voice whose sound was like the sea. You cheerfully accepted the pies in your face. Clarity and steadfastness were your province.

If only the same could be said for politicians. Only two years ago, opposition to same sex marriage was the official position of President Obama and Hillary Clinton. Why did they change? Because that’s what convictionless office seekers do.

Of course, the problem is that those who change their positions because of polls had no convictions in the first place. That’s what is sad about the matter.

Establishment Republicans are essentially going silent on the issue. GOP Governor Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania decided not to appeal a court ruling two weeks ago that allowed same sex marriage. Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey did the same. Is possible GOP candidate Rand Paul being squishy when he says the GOP, to get bigger, will have to learn to disagree on social issues? Time will tell.

It’s still true that he who frames the question wins the debate. Same-sex marriage supporters have framed the issue as marriage equality, but the true frame is biology. Every homosexual exists because of heterosexuality. Talk about two mommies or two dads all we want, everybody — everybody — has a mother and a father. What does this tell us about nature’s immutable plan?

Another proper frame is the slippery slope argument. Proponents of homosexual marriage argue legalizing homosexual marriage would not lead to polygamy, but how could it not? It’s hard to argue two men or two women can marry but one man and multiple women can’t. If a man can love a man or a woman a woman, why can’t a man love three women, marry them and enjoy recognition of the state? To quote the screaming Mrs. Clinton, “What does it matter?”

Today, there is no greater a silencer of free speech than the homosexual lobby and their fawning sympathizers, particularly the sports and corporate worlds. (Why are these two entities so inclined? It’s us regular Joe’s that buy their tickets and their products. Hhmm!) When Miami Dolphins player Don Jones tweeted the word “horrible” upon seeing the homosexual kiss of NFL draftee Michael Sam and his boyfriend, he was fined, suspended and sent to “educational training.” When anyone is punished because he finds man-to-man mouth kissing on television objectionable, we have become a thought-police state.

This is the reason traditionalists must push back. Speaking out against the cowardly, cowering sports world, pestering elected officials and supporting traditional marriage organizations are all good ways to start.

According to the liberal website Politico, 82 percent of Republicans believe in traditional marriage. Aha! So it’s liberal courts making it look like the majority prefers same sex marriage when it really doesn’t. The GOP will lose its conservative base in 2016 if they disregard this revelation.

Traditionalists aren’t prone to protest (they’re at work, remember), but they seldom fail to vote. Maybe they aren’t AWOL after all. Maybe the Republican establishment will find out.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; polygamy; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 06/02/2014 5:06:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real problem is the bisexual president empowered them.


2 posted on 06/02/2014 5:12:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem is that conservatives are worker bees - always at work, work, work. Or, if they’re like my husband - running around desperately looking for work because the Obama economy sucks. There simply is no time for decent people to continually fight against lawyers, judges, and the gay agenda.


3 posted on 06/02/2014 5:17:01 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Many of us are pulling back as well. I’m starting to squirrel away my money and that which is important to me and my family. I believe more conservatives are following suit.


4 posted on 06/02/2014 5:22:45 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; miss marmelstein
See my tagline-"Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin"

We can only save ourselves and it starts at home, regardless who is in the Oval Office.

5 posted on 06/02/2014 5:53:27 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

“Have traditionalists gone AWOL?”....

I’m afraid they are getting more scarce every day. The “pen and phone” odumbo controls out weighs the rest of us, for now. There will be sooooooo much work to “un-do” the mess we are in.


6 posted on 06/02/2014 6:05:28 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You don’t make any mention of kids. You don’t get it.


7 posted on 06/02/2014 6:16:13 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think a lot of people are keeping their powder dry, waiting for a big enough chink in the progressive armour before opening fire. Right now we are just wasting ammunition until the momentum switches.


8 posted on 06/02/2014 6:49:22 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As well intentioned as Mr. Hines’ effort is, it gives the wrong answer because it asks the wrong question. The right question has to involve the almost-mentioned, but inaudible word, “kids”.

How much time does Mr. Hines have upon this earth? At 59, I figure I have 10 years at the outside. The Gay paradigm has completely dominated our culture because it perfectly packages the magical thinking of childlessness. The Lost Marbles dumped somewhere in the cluttered back room of the Peter Pan mind feature prominently the fact that, we didn’t parent ourselves. Moreover, our existence is intimately involved, not only with our forebears, but our descendants.

Who will remember us when we’re gone? Only our children, perhaps our grandchildren. Who will, if we don’t have any? Without the memory of progeny, our existence is so futile that we shouldn’t even be here now.

Mr. Hines mentions the phantom figures of “Mommy” and “Daddy”, but “Baby” nowhere appears on his radar. The inescapable fact is that by the majority of measures, kids raised in the intact biological family fare better.

* Children of lesbian mothers are nearly 12 times (approximately 1200%) as likely to say they were sexually touched by a parent or adult as those raised in intact biological families. Asked if they had ever been raped, 31 percent of those raised by lesbian mothers and 25 percent of children raised by gay fathers answered yes, compared to 8 percent of those from intact biological homes.

* Twenty percent (20%) of those raised by lesbians and 25% of those raised by gay men reported having contracted a sexual transmitted infection, compared to 8% of those raised by their biological parents.

* Twelve percent (12%) of those with a lesbian mother and 24% of those with a gay father reported having recently contemplated suicide, compared to only 5% raised by an intact biological family or a single parent.

* Nineteen percent (19%) of those raised by a lesbian mother or gay father were currently or recently receiving psychotherapy, compared to 8% of those raised by their heterosexual parents.

* Twenty-eight percent (28%) of those of working age raised by a lesbian mother and 20% of those raised by a gay father reported being currently unemployed, compared to 8% raised by an intact biological family and 13% raised by a single parent.

* Children in same-sex households are only 65 percent as likely to graduate from high school as those living in traditional opposite sex marriage families.

* Girls living in male, gay households are only 15 percent as likely to graduate compared to girls from opposite sex married homes.

“Tradition means giving a vote to most obscure of all classes, our ancestors,” wrote the early 20th century British journalist GH Chesterton. “It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about. All democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of birth; tradition objects to their being disqualified by the accident of death. Democracy tells us not to neglect a good man’s opinion, even if he is our groom; tradition asks us not to neglect a good man’s opinion, even if he is our father.”

That’s only half the story. We have no “tradition” in the absence of someone to hand it on to.

One nearly universal measure of the greatness of a people is their longevity. If we have the sense, we are amazed by the great timespan of ancient Egyptian civilization, and that of near-recent China.

Placed in the same framework, the meteoric American saga is near to falling to earth. The reason “Gay Marriage Equity” is the sure sign our story is at the End Stage is, no one will be left to hear our story.


9 posted on 06/02/2014 6:56:43 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

These stats you’ve posted are staggering. Do you happen to have a link for them?
Thanks. (Not questioning...just honestly curious.)


10 posted on 06/02/2014 7:05:20 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

See my tagline (Matthew 24:37) and remember who had to fix things back then.


11 posted on 06/02/2014 7:09:41 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: CharlesOConnell

What’s your source for these statistics? I need that for publication (I’m editor of our parish newsletter).


12 posted on 06/02/2014 7:11:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of Information)
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To: Jane Long

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610

“How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study” by University of Texas at Austin sociology professor Mark Regnerus

and

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11150-013-9220-y
“High school graduation rates among children of same-sex households” by Simon Fraser University economics professor Douglas W. Allen

unpacked at

http://www.presentation-r2l.org/children-raised-in-the-intact-biological-family-fare-better-by-the-vast-majority-of-objective-measures/


13 posted on 06/02/2014 7:49:16 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610

“How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study” by University of Texas at Austin sociology professor Mark Regnerus

and

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11150-013-9220-y
“High school graduation rates among children of same-sex households” by Simon Fraser University economics professor Douglas W. Allen

unpacked at

http://www.presentation-r2l.org/children-raised-in-the-intact-biological-family-fare-better-by-the-vast-majority-of-objective-measures/


14 posted on 06/02/2014 7:50:07 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Thanks. This is exactly what was needed.


15 posted on 06/02/2014 8:05:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of Information)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Good info. Thanks so much.


16 posted on 06/02/2014 10:17:37 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, good take on it.

The libs convinced what seems like most people that homosexuality is not a choice but( its associated behavior ) is a natural a part of gays identity.

Mores-so that this non-choice results in no negative consequences to the gays themselves or their families, that all the negative consequences to THEM come from our lack of acceptance. Its our fault and letting them marry and express themselves in the military is the fix.

Those are the two key arguments that needed to be taken on to have a chance.


17 posted on 06/02/2014 10:21:53 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. I won. ')
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