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Parade Magazine: Wind Power Disrupts Local Climate
NewsBusters.org ^ | May 13, 2014 | Sean Long

Posted on 05/13/2014 11:18:14 AM PDT by TexasCajun

Hard facts often trump breezy liberal logic supporting renewable energy.

Parade Magazine columnist Marilyn Vos Savant, once considered the smartest person in the world, wrote on May 11 that wind power may actually disrupt local weather. While this information contradicts climate alarmist attempts to reduce extreme weather to a consequence of global warming, it adds to the list of environmental problems with wind turbines.

Vos Savant claimed that wind turbines “will have an impact on the weather,” in addition to causing “ground warming and drying.”

She pointed out that wind turbines “remove energy from the wind” which logically has an impact on local climate. Vos Savant also said that this problem will increase “the more widespread [turbines] become” and that “improved engineering” will not change the basic fact that they affect the air around them.

This is not just a fringe claim. On February 14, Scientific American reprinted an essay detailing studies that explored how wind power affects the climate. This essay discussed recent which found that increased wind turbines throughout Europe changed temperature and rain patterns. This study found “a mix of more rain and less rain, and warming and cooling, depending on where you are around Europe.”

Researchers also found that “the climate impacts of wind farms extend beyond the farms themselves,” impacting local communities or ecosystems

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TOPICS: Government; Outdoors; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: energy; turbines; uhoh; weather; wind; windpower; windturbines
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Ahhhh ...This is what I've been waiting to read!!
1 posted on 05/13/2014 11:18:14 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Damned if you do and don’t.


2 posted on 05/13/2014 11:23:54 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: TexasCajun

According to temperature readings from one of the oldest wind farms in the U.S., near Palm Springs, Calif., the turbines make it warmer at night and cooler during the day, generally speaking.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-wind-turbines-affect-temperature/

“For most regions, the mean temperatures may not change by much because the warming and cooling effects may cancel out,”...


3 posted on 05/13/2014 11:32:14 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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4 posted on 05/13/2014 11:32:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TexasCajun
Well, if the climate supposedly depends on what kind of light bulb I use, then tens of thousands of giant blenders poking up into the atmosphere would certainly affect it even more.
Since everything humans do is by definition bad, why would windmills of all things be good?

5 posted on 05/13/2014 11:33:56 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: TexasCajun
"...Marilyn Vos Savant, once considered the smartest person in the world..."

At least until she questioned the efficacy of Green Energy.

6 posted on 05/13/2014 11:35:18 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: TexasCajun; null and void

[ Vos Savant claimed that wind turbines “will have an impact on the weather,” in addition to causing “ground warming and drying.” ]

Might as well move back to the Caves and cull 99.99% of our population to be sustainable... We will start the Culling with the fools who want the culling the most...

Somewhere about culling 2-5% we can probably stop as no one will want it anymore...

The eco freaks annoy me so much I am half tempted to start literally living underground and building a civilization there and then poke our heads up after the co weenies and the islamists kill each other in 200-300 years and then take over as the only things left as weapons up top will be sticks and stones...


7 posted on 05/13/2014 11:47:13 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Psalm 73

Nah, it was more like when they realized that the result was based on the 1937 version of the test and its flawed way of calculating the score, which allowed some wonky numbers to come out. She’s smart, particularly in the area of math and logic, but if she was the smartest woman in the world, I daresay she’d be doing something more than writing a brainteaser column in “Parade”.


8 posted on 05/13/2014 11:47:23 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: TexasCajun

I always doubted her claim to be the smartest woman in the world.

After reading this though, I may have to rethink that.


9 posted on 05/13/2014 11:47:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GraceG

Yeah. The industrious Morlocks were slandered and the multi-multi-generational welfare sheep Eloi were exalted by Wells...


10 posted on 05/13/2014 11:52:25 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: BitWielder1

that is not the worst of it, the wind turbines are fixed to the ground and the winds are pushing at thousands of these and they are causing the continents to drift and the spin on the earth to speed up ever so slightly.

In a world where a few CO2 molecules is the difference between healthy or anemic polar ice caps, NYC above or below sea level, imagine the disruption of the delicate climate if the day is shortened by even a fraction of a second by the push if the wind against the giant fixed wind traps!

Forgive us Lord for we do not know what we have wrought!

It is happening! How else do you explain the number of quakes this past decade!

We are doomed!


11 posted on 05/13/2014 11:53:10 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
"...but if she was the smartest woman in the world..."

But we all know Hillary is really the smartest women in the world....

12 posted on 05/13/2014 11:53:15 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

1. Cities produce columns of rising hot air because they absorb heat via asphalt and yes plants because we love plants and trees and parks.

2. There rising columns of air DO affect the jet streams by deflecting them and altering weather patterns.

3. The Micro-climate effect of cities mean while IN cities the winters DO appear milder, drive 20 minutes past the out skirts of ANY city during the winter and the SNOW will stay around LONGER because it is WARMER in the cities!

4. Because most idiot libtards live in Cities they think the earth (because they are the epitome of (Observe Locally, Drink the Kool-aide Globally ) think the earth is warming up because all they know of life is their pitiful existence in the cities.

5. Most all universities are IN cities.

This is precisely WHY the Academic Elite Libtards think Gore-Bull Warming is such a boogeyman.

Now why do you think the Libs will gladly trade in their cars for bikes in order to STAY in their beloved cities where they are all crammed together like sardines?

They would never ever entertain the idea of moving back to where their ancestors came from ie. the countryside... Because they are too smart for that..

I am not saying we should tear down cities, but leave my SUV alone and I will leave your cities the hell alone.


13 posted on 05/13/2014 11:56:17 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: null and void

[ Yeah. The industrious Morlocks were slandered and the multi-multi-generational welfare sheep Eloi were exalted by Wells... ]

Well they did know how to raise some cattle, granted it would have been easier to keep actual cows and pigs and sheep, but maybe they died off like some sorta planet of the apes excuse for not having cats and dogs so i guess they had to settle for dumb long pig...


14 posted on 05/13/2014 12:02:17 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: TexasCajun
Wind being fickle makes windmills an unreliable source of electric power and creates a need for fossil fuel plants to pick up the slack when the wind isn't blowing. There are also studies of the health effects of wind turbines on humans that conclude that infra sound waves from the spinning blades may be a health hazard and even the flashing shadows from the blades on nearby homes may disrupt circadian rhythm in humans. An unlighted wind turbine recently was the cause of a recent plane crash in South Dakota when the pilot was unable to see the turbine blades in foggy weather. Three people were killed in the crash.
15 posted on 05/13/2014 12:02:21 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: TexasCajun

So this means no need to put up windmills near Martha’s vineyard or Nantucket. The Kennedy’s will be pleased.


16 posted on 05/13/2014 12:12:40 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TexasCajun; thackney; BitWielder1; urbanpovertylawcenter; GraceG; The Great RJ

Something doesn’t smell quite right.

Question: are not wind-turbines essentially a passive device? That is, don’t they only move when the wind is blowing?

And if the above is true, how then could they contribute to “ground warming and drying”? Is the suggestion here that the turbines somehow redirect the blowing wind towards the ground??

Building on the above, it seems odd that even a large farm of turbines could sufficiently dampen wind speed/volume/velocity (however it is quantified)...


17 posted on 05/13/2014 12:14:49 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: TexasCajun

Well its a simple law of physics. When the wind energy is converted to kinetic energy the wind energy is lost. New wind energy will be produced downrange but in the immediate vicinity there will be changes.

Seems that I read about higher nighttime temps at ground level under Texas wind farms, which meant no fog and no dew.


18 posted on 05/13/2014 12:17:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Raycpa

On the other hand Parade Magazine is only inserted into dead tree newspapers. So relax, Greenies, almost nobody is going to read this.


19 posted on 05/13/2014 12:22:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GraceG

You are correct-the nearest city-about 40 miles away-is predictably 8-10 degrees warmer, winter or summer-concrete and asphalt hold heat and radiate it up into the air.

City people who were born and raised there don’t do well out here-they whine about the lack of supermarkets, city water and malls, that everyone has locked gates and guns, then they move back to the city. Which is a good thing, because if the s*** hits the fan, they will not have a comfy, easy life here...

There are wind farms in unpopulated areas of W Texas-the electrical co-op out here gets a lot of it’s power from them, and the rates are as good as conventional energy. But it does not make sense to me to disrupt populations of people or animals by putting the things anywhere but a wilderness...


20 posted on 05/13/2014 12:25:01 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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