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I'll just put it on my credit card.
1 posted on 03/09/2014 4:46:47 PM PDT by Kartographer
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Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 03/09/2014 4:47:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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EBT All The Way, Baby!


3 posted on 03/09/2014 4:51:12 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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Time to stock up on Ramen soup and vienna sausages.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 4:51:42 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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$17 trillion is only $1.3 trillion in 1929 dollars.

(The national debt was $17 Billion in 1929 or 75 times less in same dollars.)


6 posted on 03/09/2014 4:59:02 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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No, you won’t.

I’ll be using your credit card at that point.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 5:00:58 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Well, at 40-something I am thankful that I had the chance to live in and enjoy a period of history that will be known as “America before the democrats/liberals/progressive/****les Detroited it”.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 5:01:46 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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So much so that our Treasury Secretary recently noted that should the debt ceiling fail to be increased, the fall-out would be “catastrophic” and last for generations.

And if the debt ceiling is increased, eventually the fallout will be "catastrophic" and last for generations.

No matter what any person or persons do or don't do, there is "much unpleasantness" that lies ahead.

10 posted on 03/09/2014 5:03:26 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Not that I want to be contrarian, however, we have just discovered thru fracking, huge reserves of oil and natural gas. We are not about to go broke. That said this continued spending is irresponsible at best. The interest on our debt could easily consume all the oil reserves and then some if we were to cease being the reserve currency.


14 posted on 03/09/2014 5:10:31 PM PDT by mistfree (Their & There, they're not the same)
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If a man had a gold coin and had no water and I had a glass of water - which is more valuable?

If a man had a house and had no water and I had a glass of water - which is more valuable?

You can say that about a bowl of oatmeal or a Ramen noodle cup - if someone needs food, either of those lowly items are worth more than gold or houses.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 5:12:23 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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Its already gone up quite a bit. Even my 21 yr old son has noticed the price of milk. $4.59 a gallon yesterday


16 posted on 03/09/2014 5:12:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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... consider that everything in America, from food to fuel, is subsidized in one way or another.

These "subsidies" consist largely of "tax breaks". So if the federal and state governments were to collapse, it's not as though these enterprises would lose their subsidy!

19 posted on 03/09/2014 5:14:20 PM PDT by dr_lew
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And many sheeple will demand a government solution


23 posted on 03/09/2014 5:32:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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The whole frigging world is buried in debt. After the SHTF, I hope you can find some fool willing to accept your credit or debit card for real goods and services.

BTW, does the IRS accept credit cards?


27 posted on 03/09/2014 5:37:21 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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"everything in America, from food to fuel, is subsidized in one way or another. Those subsidies are being paid with ever-increasing debt."

A million dollars that isn't borrowed by the government and paid into welfare is a million dollars that media and businesses don't get their share of.
This is why the Tea Party is hated by the media and opposed by many businesses.
It's a command economy. The command is: "Don't worry!"

34 posted on 03/09/2014 5:44:47 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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I'm not worried. In case of trouble my government is gonna send me to camp! Yeah, camp - bonfire singalongs, toasted marshmallows, guys in towers making sure we're all OK...

I love camp.

37 posted on 03/09/2014 5:53:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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interesting isn’t it, that the Fed has almost the same amounts in assists that the USA has in debts? (~17T Trillion)


42 posted on 03/09/2014 6:04:37 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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Given that sobering report, consider that everything in America, from food to fuel, is subsidized in one way or another. Those subsidies are being paid with ever-increasing debt.

A list of these subsidies would be nice, to prove the author isn't just some idiot hawking gold.

food will triple… heat, electricity, everything subsidized by the government will triple overnight…

Which of these does the government pick up 67% of the cost?

Given that we are now in more debt as a nation and individuals than ever before,

Individuals have been reducing debt.

46 posted on 03/09/2014 6:13:41 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Your income will take a necessary 25% pay cut to keep your job in this bad economy. “You should be grateful, some people are still looking for work”


64 posted on 03/09/2014 7:40:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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Much of this chaos could be alleviated quickly with a Republican congress and POTUS doing several things.

1) Reducing the size of the federal government by about 50%, as well as removing the vast number of economic governors that prevent the economy from working.

2) Abandon several of the treaty organizations, even the WTO, NAFTA, GATT, FTAA, etc. Basically halting imports, so if corporations want to sell it here, they have to make it here.

3) Conclude multi-trillion dollar virtual debt by calling them. If the derivatives market cannot come up with the $100 trillion or more it has been gambling, it is bankrupt, and the US has no obligation to bail it out. The same applies to hedge funds, and all other Wall Street “heads I win and tails the taxpayers lose” gambling operations.

4) A balanced budget amendment, with a fixed, $100b a year payoff of the national debt, on top of the $225b annual interest that is being paid.


71 posted on 03/09/2014 8:28:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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bttt


79 posted on 03/09/2014 10:05:55 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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