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Ideology vs. reason and a constitutional crisis
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | February 26, 2014 | Dan Miller

Posted on 02/26/2014 11:07:41 AM PST by DanMiller

Most sentient humans have ideological beliefs. When they become acceptable substitutes for rational thought they can be pernicious.

Jonathan Turley, whom I consider a liberal in the old-fashioned sense and not what I refer to as a "librul," today testified before the House Judiciary Committee on usurpations of congressional authority by the President, regulatory agencies and the courts -- often with congressional acquiescence if not encouragement. The transcript of his prepared remarks is at the second link. He neither had an epiphany on the road to Damascus nor became a "far right" conservative; he has long held and expressed the views stated in his testimony. Mr. Turley noted that he voted for President Obama and has agreed with some, but apparently not all, of the motivations for some of President Obama's usurpations. He is, regardless of his personal views on those matters, opposed to those usurpations because they are very harmful to our constitutional republic -- without regard to who does the usurping or why.

In the remainder of this post, I have quoted from Mr. Turley's prepared remarks and added my own brief commentary. For those willing to wade through the "legal mumble jumble" it would involve, I recommend reading his remarks in their entirety.

Given the issues at stake in this debate, it is vital that we speak plainly about the current conflicts between the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch. We are in the midst of a constitutional crisis with sweeping implications for our system of government. There has been a massive gravitational shift of authority to the Executive Branch that threatens the stability and functionality of our tripartite system. To be sure, this shift did not begin with President Obama. However, it has accelerated at an alarming rate under this Administration. These changes are occurring in a political environment with seemingly little oxygen for dialogue, let alone compromise. Indeed, the current anaerobic conditions are breaking down the muscle of the constitutional system that protects us all. Of even greater concern is the fact that the other two branches appear passive, if not inert, as the Executive Branch has assumed such power.

As someone who voted for President Obama and agrees with many of his policies, it is often hard to separate the ends from the means of presidential action. Indeed, despite decades of thinking and writing about the separation of powers, I have had momentary lapses where I privately rejoiced in seeing actions on goals that I share, even though they were done in the circumvention of Congress. For example, when President Obama unilaterally acted on greenhouse gas pollutants, I was initially relieved. I agree entirely with the priority that he has given this issue. However, it takes an act of willful blindness to ignore that the greenhouse regulations were implemented only after Congress rejected such measures and that a new sweeping regulatory scheme is now being promulgated solely upon the authority of the President. We are often so committed to a course of action that we conveniently dismiss the means as a minor issue in light of the goals of the Administration. Many have embraced the notion that all is fair in love and politics. However, as I have said too many times before Congress, in our system it is often more important how we do something than what we do. Priorities and policies (and presidents) change. What cannot change is the system upon which we all depend for our rights and representation.

Convenience has long been the enemy of principle in politics. It is not enough to refer to the value of a program to justify its extraconstitutional means. Such constitutional relativism cuts the entire system free of its moorings; leaving the system adrift in a sea of politics where the ability to act is treated as synonymous with the authority to act. There is no license in our system to act, as President Obama has promised, “with or without Congress” in these areas. During periods of political division, compromise is clearly often hard to come by. That reflects a divided country as a whole. Such opposition cannot be the justification for circumvention of the legislative branch. Otherwise, the separation of powers would only be respected to the extent that it serves to ratify the wishes of a president— leaving only the pretense of democratic process. Circumvention is used to avoid any compromise and instead to force victory on the unilateral terms of one branch. 

As I will discuss, the Framers gave the Congress a variety of means to protect its institutional authority. However, these means have lost much of their vitality due to the changes in the federal government. Moreover, the Framers never expected Congress to be solely responsible for the maintenance of the separation of powers. The current crisis is the result not simply of executive overreach but also of judicial avoidance in the face of that growing encroachment. The courts are now absent — without constitutional leave — in the midst of one of the most fundamental conflicts in the history of our country. That will make corrective measures all the more important (and all the more difficult) for Congress. [Footnotes omitted and my emphases added here and in other quotations from Mr. Turley's prepared remarks.]

Agree or disagree with Mr. Turley's ideological positions on such matters as man-made climate change, it is difficult to understand how anyone who respects and reveres our constitutional system of Government could disagree with the arguments presented in his testimony.

The remainder of Mr. Turley's remarks before the Judiciary Committee dealt with what the Congress can do to halt or at least to retard usurpations of congressional authority. His proposals would be very difficult to pass and, to the extent that they require legislation that manages to pass both houses, are likely to be vetoed or ignored by the President.

The principal sources of the present "constitutional crisis" involve the Executive and Judicial Branches as well as the "fourth branch," our plethora of regulatory and administrative agencies, commissions and departments which have increasingly been given broad legislative powers by members of the Congress too lazy and/or too busy collecting funds and getting re-elected to bother doing their jobs.

Judicial Branch

The legal doctrine of "standing" is intended to preclude litigation by parties lacking any cognizable direct interest in the matter to be litigated. If I were to beat my wife, she would have standing to sue me. Prosecutors employed by local or in some cases Federal governments would have standing and could proceed against me criminally. Our next-door neighbor would not have standing. If my taxes are raised and the proceeds used to fund abortions or remedial education for those whose religious views preclude support for "gay" marriage or abortion, I would not on that basis alone have standing to challenge the taxes or such uses of the resulting funds.

[I]n the last few decades the Supreme Court has removed itself from separation of powers cases . . . in the name of separation of powers. Indeed, in its decision in Raines v. Byrd, the Court insisted that “we must put aside the natural urge to proceed directly to the merits of this important dispute and to 'settle' it for the sake of  convenience and efficiency. Instead, we must carefully inquire as to whether appellees have met their burden of establishing that their claimed injury is personal, particularized, concrete, and otherwise judicially cognizable.”

Some of the most important questions to the Framers, like the declaration of war, have been avoided by the courts under claims that the judiciary is somehow strengthening the separation of powers by refusing to reinforce the lines of separation. It is akin to fire departments allowing houses to burn under the claim that citizens are best source for fire protection. Thus, the reasoning goes, if “only you can prevent wildfires,” then only you can put them out. The policing of the lines of separation is the single most important duty of the courts since the separation of powers was designed as a protection of individual liberty. It is the concentration of authority in any one branch that threatens individual rights. While checks and balances exist, the protection of the structural integrity of the system (as with federalism guarantees) rests with the courts as neutral arbiters. In these cases, the courts are not asked to resolve political questions but are instead asked to resolve conflicts regarding the process through which such questions are resolved.

Modest changes to the ill-applied doctrine of standing would go far toward ameliorating the the problems.

Executive Branch

The classic check on executive over-reaching is the power of the purse. While the President may control the machinery of the state, it is Congress that supplies the gas needed to run those machines. However, the idea of the purse strings as a meaningful check on executive power is often presented in highly generalized and unrealistic terms. Congress is unlikely to cause a cascading failure by cutting off all of the funding for an agency or even a subagency office. More importantly, the Executive Branch routinely moves billions of dollars around in discretionary or undesignated funding. Cutting off the funding of a given part of the government does not have immediate impacts and may in fact not prevent funding as intended.

The Obama Administration has shown how the power of the purse has diminished under modern fiscal systems. Consider the health care controversy. As the Washington Post reported, “[t]he Obama administration plans to use $454 million in Prevention Fund dollars to help pay for the federal health insurance exchange. That’s 45 percent of the $1 billion in Prevention Fund spending available [in 2013].” Even leading Democratic members denounced this act as “a violation of both the letter and spirit of this landmark law.” However, that open disregard of the power of the purse resulted in nothing of consequence for the Administration. Congress was simply circumvented and the President effectively self-appropriated federal funds for his own priorities. Constitutional objections amounted to little more for the President than what Macbeth described as voices “full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.”

. . . .

Federal appropriations have become so fluid and discretionary spending so lax that presidents are now more insulated than ever before from the threat of de-funding. This is not to say that the power of the purse is no potential hold on Administrations. Congress needs to be more specific on the use of funds and reduce the degree to which funds are given for discretionary uses, particularly during periods of circumvention and tension.

Our congresscritters do not relish doing the tedious and boring work needed to propose, let alone get passed by both houses, legislation with sufficient specificity as to which funds are to be used for, and only for, what.

Possible solutions

The current threat to legislative authority in our system is comprehensive— spanning from the misappropriation of funds to the circumvention of appointments to negation of legislative provisions. Any solution, therefore, must also be comprehensive.

For that reason, the current proposals should not be considered in isolation but as part of a broader package of legislative countermeasures. The proposed legislation on legislative or member standing is particularly of interest to me, as I stressed in my earlier testimony.

. . . .

While I understand the reluctance of courts to consider political questions, a separation-based challenge is not a political but a structural question that is committed to the courts. Indeed, “standing” does not appear anywhere in the Constitution as a term or even by reference. It is a creation of the courts and has radically changed over the years to create a growing barrier for access to the courts. We now face a situation where major alleged violations of the Constitution are raised but there is no one who clearly has the standing to force judicial review.

. . . .

The greatest difficulty facing a legislative solution to this morass is that the Court has actively sought to bar lawsuits by basing many of its decisions on its interpretation of Article III as opposed to prudential considerations. Congress can alter standing under prudential principles but cannot alter the constitutional meaning of Article II. Absent a constitutional amendment, a change in the interpretation of Article III can only come from the Court itself.

. . . .

Legislative standing is a modest extension of standing to a relatively small group, but it would have a pronounced impact on separations controversies. Standing limitations are often defended by the courts under the theory that those with the most at stake in disputes are the most likely to present the strongest arguments. When it comes to separations conflicts, members have such resources and such an interest to present strong cases. To use colloquial parlance, they have “skin in the game” when it comes to the separation of powers.

The problem with securing legislative standing is the specific grounds laid bout [sic] by the Supreme Court for its past decisions.  Any change in the Article III limitations would have to come from that same Court. The only alternative would be a constitutional amendment. The situation is, in my view, so serious that I believe we may have to consider such a move, even though I have long opposed constitutional amendments as a general principle. I have been reluctant to suggest such a resolution because I believe the Court is dead wrong on standing and that this is a barrier created by the courts rather than the Constitution. These decisions have overwhelmingly tended to favor the expansion of executive power. I still hope to see a correction of these decisions and much prefer any alternative to a constitutional amendment, which I readily admit is a difficult proposition.

Having a constitutional amendment proposed and adopted is an Herculean task. Under Article V of the Constitution, proposed amendments can becomes effective only if

(a) approved by either two thirds of the members of Congress present or, upon the application of two thirds of all states, the Congress calls for a constitutional convention which proposes amendments

and

(b) any proposed amendment is approved by three fourths of all states.

There's more, and Mr. Turley does an excellent lawyer-like job of articulating it. In my own view, we have to start somewhere. The old Buckley Rule -- support the most conservative candidates (I would add the words "who favor constitutional governance") who can win --would be a good start; not a finish, but a good start. .


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: articlev; congress; constitution; cos; executive; judiciary

1 posted on 02/26/2014 11:07:41 AM PST by DanMiller
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To: DanMiller

Liberals claim the high ground of “Reason”, when they are actually masters of “Rationalization”.


2 posted on 02/26/2014 11:16:15 AM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: DanMiller

The Supreme Court most certainly needs to revisit the issue of administrative rulemaking as an unconstitutional delegation of power.


3 posted on 02/26/2014 11:19:05 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Zeneta

That’s a great line. :)


4 posted on 02/26/2014 11:22:52 AM PST by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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To: DanMiller
Mr. Turley noted that he voted for President Obama and has agreed with some, but apparently not all, of the motivations for some of President Obama's usurpations.

Thanks for electing the jackass, jackass.

5 posted on 02/26/2014 11:49:43 AM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Resolute Conservative; VerySadAmerican; Nuc 1.1; MamaTexan; Political Junkie Too; jeffc; 1010RD; ...
Article V ping! Even libs are getting it!
6 posted on 02/26/2014 11:56:19 AM PST by Jacquerie ( Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse. Article V.)
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To: DanMiller; All

Never fear. The Dems will conveniently “right” all these wrongs, just in time to hamstring a Republican president from ever un-doing the nefarious works of Obama/Pelosi/Reid, making certain that such unchecked liberties will never be taken again by a Republican prez.

Of course, when a Democrat comes back around, ........


7 posted on 02/26/2014 12:07:26 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: MissTed

Reason;

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reason

rea·son
[ree-zuhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
a basis or cause, as for some belief, action, fact, event, etc.: the reason for declaring war.
2.
a statement presented in justification or explanation of a belief or action.
3.
the mental powers concerned with forming conclusions, judgments, or inferences.
4.
sound judgment; good sense.
5.
normal or sound powers of mind; sanity.

-— -— - — -— - - ——

verb (used without object)
8.
to think or argue in a logical manner.
9.
to form conclusions, judgments, or inferences from facts or premises.
10.
to urge reasons which should determine belief or action.
verb (used with object)
11.
to think through logically, as a problem (often followed by out ).
12.
to conclude or infer.
13.
to convince, persuade, etc., by reasoning.
14.
to support with reasons.
Idioms
15.
bring (someone) to reason, to induce a change of opinion in (someone) through presentation of arguments; convince: The mother tried to bring her rebellious daughter to reason.
16.
by reason of, on account of; because of: He was consulted about the problem by reason of his long experience.
17.
in / within reason, in accord with reason; justifiable; proper: She tried to keep her demands in reason.
18.
stand to reason, to be clear, obvious, or logical: With such an upbringing it stands to reason that the child will be spoiled.
19.
with reason, with justification; properly: The government is concerned about the latest crisis, and with reason.

————— ————— ————————————

rationalization;

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rationalization

ra·tion·al·ize
[rash-uh-nl-ahyz, rash-nl-ahyz] Show IPA
verb (used with object), ra·tion·al·ized, ra·tion·al·iz·ing.
1.
to ascribe (one’s acts, opinions, etc.) to causes that superficially seem reasonable and valid but that actually are unrelated to the true, possibly unconscious and often less creditable or agreeable causes.
2.
to remove unreasonable elements from.
3.
to make rational or conformable to reason.
4.
to treat or explain in a rational or rationalistic manner.
5.
Mathematics . to eliminate radicals from (an equation or expression): to rationalize the denominator of a fraction.

verb (used without object), ra·tion·al·ized, ra·tion·al·iz·ing.
7.
to invent plausible explanations for acts, opinions, etc., that are actually based on other causes: He tried to prove that he was not at fault, but he was obviously rationalizing.
8.
to employ reason; think in a rational or rationalistic manner.

-—————— ————————— -———

So, Liberals take reason to mean “Scientific” or a logical understanding of facts.

Rationalization is a human construct that they generally accept.

It’s the fluid definition of “Reason” that allows them an “out” when challenged.

In the general sense, “reason” means science or fact.

When pressed on this, their definition changes. It changes to an embrace of science itself and the uncertainty that lies within.

As a result, they are left with rationalization.

Belief or faith.

Their new faith is in that of uncertainty. This is the faith they embrace and promote. This is our P.C. culture, our media and news culture.

Two things to watch.

Understanding How Modern Liberals Think, Evan Sayet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXgGS50AVY

No Science, No Logic and No Morality: Atheism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxz84kS8k4U


8 posted on 02/26/2014 12:12:39 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: DanMiller
The good news is lefty Turley recognizes, without exactly saying so, the danger of Obama tyranny. The bad news is he thinks the constitution should be amendment such that congress has standing to challenge El President. He doesn't see the corruption visited by the 17th Amendment.

Some pull quotes from his prepared statement:

The very fact that we are having this hearing captures how far we have drifted from our original constitutional origins.

I believe considerable blame rests not with the “political branches” but with the Judicial Branch.

The removal of the federal courts from the equation in these conflicts has placed even greater stress on the system of checks and balances. However, the measures available to Congress are no substitute for judicial review, particularly given the changes in our federal system.

Today, the vast majority of “laws” governing the United States are not passed by Congress but are issued as regulations. Recently, this Supreme Court added to this insulation and authority with a ruling that agencies can determine their own jurisdictions—a power that was previously believed to rest with Congress.

The Executive Branch routinely moves billions of dollars around in discretionary or undesignated funding. Cutting off the funding of a given part of the government does not have immediate impacts and may in fact not prevent funding as intended.

The other oft-cited power checking the Executive Branch is direct legislative action and oversight authority. Once again, however, recent years have shown how presidents can insulate themselves from legislative inquiry into questions of misconduct or misappropriation.

I previously testified that I believe that President Obama clearly violated the Constitution in his recess appointment of Richard Cordray to serve as the first Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and three individuals to the National Labor Relations Board.

The solution to this crisis will not be found in the impeachment clause.

I have repeatedly testified before Congress on the single most valuable change that would counter the usurpation of legislative authority: legislative or member standing.

Any change in the Article III limitations would have to come from that same Court. The only alternative would be a constitutional amendment. The situation is, in my view, so serious that I believe we may have to consider such a move, even though I have long opposed constitutional amendments as a general principle. I have been reluctant to suggest such a resolution because I believe the Court is dead wrong on standing and that this is a barrier created by the courts rather than the Constitution.

9 posted on 02/26/2014 12:21:51 PM PST by Jacquerie ( Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse. Article V.)
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To: Zeneta

How would you apply which of those definitions to Mr. Turley’s remarks before the House Judiciary Committee?


10 posted on 02/26/2014 12:22:57 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: DanMiller

You’re going to make me read this article ?

I thought I might review this movie by the title alone.

BRB.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 12:32:36 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta
I don't know what "BRB" means, but it might be useful to read the article or perhaps even more useful to read Turley's entire testimony, a link to which is provided in the first paragraph of the article and here.
12 posted on 02/26/2014 12:59:44 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: DanMiller

Good article by Turley. Good commentary by you.

There is no “bill of rights” to protect us from the regulators, and all three branches use that as a way of evading the constitution. It seems to me.


13 posted on 02/26/2014 1:33:46 PM PST by marron
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To: DanMiller

BRB = Be right back.

While I need to take in both your comments and those of Turley.

I don’t disagree with you or Turley, on the surface, there’s more to this than meets the eye.

BRB.


14 posted on 02/26/2014 1:44:22 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Jacquerie

In the news today it was reported that both US senators from Arizona (McCain and Flake)
were urging Governor Brewer to veto a bill that was passed by the Arizona house and senate.
How backwards is that?


15 posted on 02/26/2014 3:19:08 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: DanMiller

Great post, many thanks. There is always the assurance that if one side acts in an arbitrary or dictatorial manner, the other might retaliate. These days, however, I get the distinct impression that the liberal side counts on their stranglehold on the press and broadcast media to act as a brake on their opponents that the Constitution has ceased to be on them. That’s a little more than merely succumbing to the temptation of bypassing procedure.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 3:27:18 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Repeal The 17th
Those two illustrate why senators must once again be state appointed. There is little time.
17 posted on 02/26/2014 3:49:05 PM PST by Jacquerie ( Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse. Article V.)
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To: Billthedrill

Thank you.


18 posted on 02/26/2014 3:52:50 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: DanMiller

The solution to this problem is two fold, impeach the offending officers and judges. Or eliminate the seats of offending judges. Why hasn’t this been done? Simple, the dims want to destroy the constitution and the Republic. Allowing the dims to impose a marxist state upon us and make us their slaves effectively. Sadly many of the pubbies willingly join them. The Article V Convention of States is our last chance to restore the Republic. And we need far more change than repeal of the 17th and Mark Levin’s liberty amendments. Additionally, we need to completely revise our current method of taxation and institute a national sales tax. Repeal the income tax amendment and constitutionally prohibit property tax. Eliminate the ability of the congress to write tax law. Eliminate transfer payments from the federal government. This will have to be done over a period of time but it has to be done. Eliminate judical review. Rueling on the constitutionally of laws is how the judiciary imposes it will on us. This has the side benefit of correcting the concept of incorporation. Most here will think these recommendations for amendments radical but I submit that our government is so corrupt, so mendatious, so aggrandizing, that it simply cannot be trusted with the future of our country. And this list is not comprehensive.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 5:55:25 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1

Excellent start... Included along with the “liberty Amendments” would be a COMPLETE removal of the “lame duck” concept... Once you are voted out, YOU ARE OUT... PERIOD! No more votes on ANYTHING. The new Congress can be seated IMMEDIATLEY... This would have the effect of NOT allowing a governing body the opportunity to change rules while they are still “technically” in charge even though they were voted out...


20 posted on 02/26/2014 7:24:41 PM PST by bfh333 (William Wallace was right! ~~~ FRRRREEEEEEEEEEEDOM ~~~)
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