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If the Pilgrims Had ObamaCare They Would Have All Died
Political Realities WordPress Blog ^ | 11/27/13 | Mike Miller

Posted on 11/27/2013 3:45:49 PM PST by LD Jackson

The history of Thanksgiving proves socialism is a killer!

I first published this at Mike's America a few years back. The lessons of Obama's socialist failure are even more apparent now....

The Pilgrims learned early on that redistribution of wealth spreads only misery, poverty and hunger. What a shame that many refuse to learn that lesson!

Obama has spent the last months going around the country attacking millionaires and billionaires and demanding that the rich "pay their fair share." It's the classic class warfare politics designed to support Obama's socialist policy of redisributing the wealth. Remember what he told Joe the Plumber in Ohio in 2008 right before he had the Democrat hit squad investigate the man and leak his private records to the press? Obama told Joe that his plan was to "spread the wealth around."

Well three years later and we see what a mess that policy has made of our economy. The cost through unemployment and lost wages has been particularly hard on the lower income workers who Obama claimed to want to help.

So, in this time of Thanksgiving let's review the lesson from the first Thanksgiving: PhotobucketWilliam Bradford was one of the leaders of that group of persons we call "The Pilgrims." They settled in what is now Massachusetts in 1620 after a long and perilous sea voyage. Bradford became Governor, a post in which he served off and on for over 30 years. He completed "History of Plymouth Plantation" in 1650 (text here).

The first months after their arrival half the Pilgrims died of disease, starvation or exposure to the elements. At first, they banded together to share the fruits of labor equally among themselves. Here's Bradford's report of the success of the collective "redistributive" approach:

The experience that was had in this common course and condition, tried sundry years and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince the vanity of that conceit of Plato's and other ancients applauded by some of later times; and that the taking away of property and bringing in community into a commonwealth would make them happy and flourishing; as if they were wiser than God. For this community (so far as it was) was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to their benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labor and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men's wives and children without any recompense. The strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes than he that was weak and not able to do a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice. The aged and graver men to be ranked and equalized in labors and victuals, clothes etc., with the meaner and younger sort, thought it some indignity and disrespect unto them. And for men's wives to be commanded to do service for other men, as dressing their meat, washing their clothes, etc., they deemed it a kind of slavery, neither could many husbands well brook it.
Three years later "after much debate of things" they decided to try things differently and let everyone work the land for themselves:
This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content. The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.
The lesson here: socialist "redistributive" policies "breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment." Labor free to reap it's own reward provides an abundance for all to enjoy!

Happy Thanksgiving!



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: obamacare; pilgrims; thanksgiving

1 posted on 11/27/2013 3:45:49 PM PST by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

I learned this in 2nd grade. What, they don’t teach it anymore?


2 posted on 11/27/2013 3:55:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: LD Jackson

Most of them died off in 2 years I think. Socialism caused them to not work and expect to be fed. Wasn’t it Bradford that said If you don’t work you don’t eat?


3 posted on 11/27/2013 3:55:31 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: LD Jackson

Even without Obamacare, I believe that all the pilgrims are dead.


4 posted on 11/27/2013 3:57:44 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountainlion
Wasn’t it Bradford that said If you don’t work you don’t eat?


Well he might have, but he would have been quoting the Bible or at least referencing the principle. II Thessalonians 3:10 “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”
5 posted on 11/27/2013 3:59:49 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

I think my quote was a grade school translation.


6 posted on 11/27/2013 4:02:57 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion
I think my quote was a grade school translation.

There's always the Indian translation. “No work’um no gettum food. Ughh!”
7 posted on 11/27/2013 4:08:12 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
I think this little lady said something about it, too. Lesson #1 for all the POF kiddies when growing up.


9 posted on 11/27/2013 4:12:51 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LD Jackson

I’m a little fuzzy... when was the first thanksgiving? by any chance was it after they threw off socialist designs?


11 posted on 11/27/2013 4:27:43 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: LD Jackson

interesting! Can’t believe they were willing to let people die rather than work hard. We are self centered beings and the best incentive is to let people keep or sell what they produce. We want to be our own masters not slaves to the commonwealth.
Exactly why Obamacare will fail. People would rather go without healthcare (even die for lack) than pay for other loafers.


12 posted on 11/27/2013 4:33:36 PM PST by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: mountainlion

Wasn’t it Bradford that said If you don’t work you don’t eat?
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No. God said that...

“The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10

For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. 2 Thessalonians 3:7-11


13 posted on 11/27/2013 6:19:38 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: LD Jackson

A Democrat Is Born


14 posted on 11/27/2013 7:18:21 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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