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1 posted on 11/20/2013 7:46:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Lets end this thread. It was Lyndon Baines Johnson who set the Dallas assassination up.


2 posted on 11/20/2013 7:49:05 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Interesting Times; zot; NYer

I consider Ion Pacepa quite credible


5 posted on 11/20/2013 7:51:47 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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One thing for certain is that KGB had a hand in spreading the silly conspiracy theories, when all available evidence was pointing to the Soviet Union and Cuba. None of those highly publicized theories ever pointed to the obvious!


6 posted on 11/20/2013 7:52:13 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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So the libs would go into even more hysteria now with the fact that it was their own commie brothas who bumped JFK off.
8 posted on 11/20/2013 7:52:51 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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I believe Daniel Greenfield. Radical idea? A leftist communist named Oswald killed him. I know, it's crazy. Leftist murderers? Bombers? Assassins? Strane ma vero...
11 posted on 11/20/2013 7:56:55 PM PST by golux
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JFK is still alive.


13 posted on 11/20/2013 7:58:09 PM PST by sagar
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I’ll go with mafia for $1000.


14 posted on 11/20/2013 7:58:13 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/three_minutes_that_transformed_america.html

This process had its beginning in 1964 through 1968 as the Johnson administrations misguided and grossly mishandled Vietnam War spawned a broad anti-war movement. The ensuing protests unleashed far more than just a demand for an end to the war. Those that blamed America for all manner of alleged sins in the past and determined to transform the United States into a socialist/Marxist nirvana were able to step out from behind the shadows and enter the mainstream of national legitimacy. This swarm of locusts soon enveloped the higher levels of Academia spawning countless clones to further infiltrate and dominate all strata of the education, and media/entertainment establishment as well as assume control of the Democratic Party.

Not only by debasing the curriculum throughout all levels of schooling but through propaganda disseminated by the media/entertainment complex American society was gradually but inexorably altered to reflect the left’s determination to upend the basic moral and religious underpinning of society, thus assuring the populace would look to the government as their savior. This process, underway for nearly two generations, has eventuated in the creation of a massive class of low-information and dependent voters unconcerned about the nation’s future and susceptible to all manner of lies and propaganda from unscrupulous national leaders.

The most doctrinaire, dangerous and devious occupant of the Oval Office in the nation’s history is Barack Obama — the son of an avowed Marxist father, who not only in his childhood, but during all his formative years, was immersed in radical ideology. He would not be president today were it not for the consequences of the events that took place on the 22nd of November 1963.


15 posted on 11/20/2013 7:59:12 PM PST by digger48
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I think Jackie planned the whole thing as revenge for his cheating.


17 posted on 11/20/2013 8:01:07 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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FACT: We’ll never really know the true facts. Just a lot of theories and speculation.


19 posted on 11/20/2013 8:04:42 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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I think it was male models. They have been responsible for all the assassinations for the last two centuries.

Getting serious, I personally think it was probably just Lee Harvey Oswald but goodness what a remarkable series of events followed the arrest of Oswald.


27 posted on 11/20/2013 8:19:18 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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Lincoln did it.


30 posted on 11/20/2013 8:22:01 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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I’m not sure if Lee Oswald did it by himself, but he was involved somehow. As for the CIA, FBI, LBJ, Mob, KGB, or Marilyn, by the 25th of November there were quite a few folks who were happy with the results, whether they were directly involved or not.


33 posted on 11/20/2013 8:32:41 PM PST by Wingy
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When things happen that are world changing, we as humans feel much more comfortable in believing that there was some powerful group behind that change, whether the change was good or not good. We like to believe in some grand plan.

we humans are not comfortable believing that a single, unknown individual can have that much of an effect on our world. So we invent conspiracy theories because that makes us more comfortable.


34 posted on 11/20/2013 8:42:32 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Thanks for posting, one of the best articles on this topic I have seen.


41 posted on 11/20/2013 9:09:06 PM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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It’s been 50 years, yes. Will we know what really went down? No. Was Kennedy assassinated? Yes. Did Ruby kill Oswald? Yes. Did the Serial Rape of America begin after that day? Yes. Who began all that? Democrats. Liberals. Progressives. Communists.
History says so.

The media is drumming the assassination of Kennedy. They hope to drown out other things of importance. It is said that continual coverage of a historical event, just might bring it back. I think the media better shut up, unless now that the boy-queer-king is not working out, they do not how else to get him out of there.


44 posted on 11/20/2013 9:13:08 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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Oswald killed Kennedy, and he acted alone.


48 posted on 11/20/2013 9:54:13 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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I think that many people/groups had motives to kill JFK. Which one actually succeeded will never be known for sure. Don't forget they were behind some assassinations and attempted assassinations themselves.

When the Warren Report was issued and documents sealed for 50 years, I wondered why it was sealed. Since the Kennedy Clan was not objecting to the conclusion, I felt that the perpetrators had been punished to the extent that they could be.

Many believed that the assassination was going to lead to war with the Russians. I always figured that Castro and some of his Soviet cohorts were the logical choice for who gave the orders to do it. Retaliation for the actions against Castro by USA/Kennedy.

If the trail led to Castro, and the Soviet Union, the American people would be livid, and demand retaliation which could lead to nuclear war. I figured they sealed it so that wouldn't happen. Figured Kennedy Clan went along with it so nuclear war would not be Kennedy's legacy, and to prevent total destruction of nuclear war.

There are several plausible theories and evidence to back it up, depending on how you interpret it. So all I can say is that there were likely several conspiracies against him, with various motives, and means to do it.

High on the list is Castro/Soviets hiring the mafia and programming Oswald. The recent movie on TV regarding the accidental shooting by a Secret Service Agent was also plausible to me.

As I said right after I watched Jack Ruby shoot Oswald: Now we'll never know for sure, because there won't be a trial and presentation of evidence that will be available to the American people in our lifetime.

50 posted on 11/20/2013 10:06:49 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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Personally I think the mafia did it reason is Bobby Kennedy going after them even Sam Giancica rise up Chicago dead get the vote for JFK win in November 1960s

Also tick off with JFK admsiatnion for losing Mafia power in Cuba


60 posted on 11/21/2013 5:49:33 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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A Few Questions that Beg for Answers

Why did RFK ask LBJ: “Why did you have my brother killed?” Was he off his rocker? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tclZrJiJSL0

Why were fingerprints of Mac Wallace, a known assassin who worked for LBJ and Ed Clark, found in the sniper’s nest on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository?
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwallaceM.htm

Why did LBJ exclaim to his mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown after a meeting at Dallas house of Clint Murchison (owner of the Book Depository), attended by J. Edgar Hoover, Nixon, Mafia kingpins, and CIA allies of LBJ) on the eve of the assassination: “After tomorrow, those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That’s no threat. That’s a promise”? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

Who desparately wanted to be president and thought JFK had stolen the Democrtaic nomination from him? Who was going to be dropped from the JFK ticket in 1964 because of financial scandals? Who invited JFK to Dallas? Who changed the president’s route to pass by the Book Depository? Who moved to secure the limousine and JFK’s body immediately after the assassination? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM

Who set up the Warren Commission and demanded Oswald be found to be the sole gunman? Who controlled the police in Dallas and the FBI and CIA in Washington? The answer: Lyndon Baines Johnson. LBJ had the motive, the means, the opportunity, the history of elimnating his opponents, and the quotations that point to his arrangement and approval of the JFK assassination and vigorous cover-up. LBJ was the clear winner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiqnU3rbsow

That LBJ was responsible does not deny CIA/FBI/Secret Service and Mafia involvement but strengthens the case against him as he provided the leadership and federal resources to coordinate the assassination, select a patsy (in the CIA’s False Defector Program), and dominate the news media, such that to this day most news outlets are afraid to challenge the Warren Commission’s official story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjU2LtVGxN0

Why do the majority of Texans and a majority of Europeans believe LBJ was behind the murder of JFK? Why do we have such difficulty in accepting the fact that a coup d’etat happened on our watch, given that we elected (and re-elected) a Muslim Marxist with no substantive experience, no discernable achievements, and a profound hatred of things American, i.e., our Constitution and our values, as our most recent president?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3094134/posts, posting #16.

No doubt but that conspiracy theories advance when key questions go unanswered and the evidence contradicts physics and forensics. The reason: there are no good answers that would be satisfactory to the media, which is afraid to even raise the possibility of LBJ’s involvement. New books out by Bill O’Reilly and Vincent Bugliosi duck the tough questions, and unlike a good murder mystery, we don’t have time to pay attention to all those important details that are available or to reason logically to a correct solution.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-men-who-killed-kennedy/

The crime may never be solved in a way most Americans will agree, especially if the documents still withheld don’t get released in the latter part of this century, as promised. Accepting that LBJ was a ringleader-killer would then cause us to admit that our great political system, the widely acclaimed democratic experiment with all its checks and balances, didn’t work, that we might be less pure than we thought we were. The Giant has gone back to sleep.


61 posted on 11/22/2013 12:13:41 PM PST by OESY
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