Posted on 11/18/2013 2:52:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
With the news last week that Machinists’ union members employed by Boeing in Puget Sound overwhelmingly rejected a proposed contract that would have meant years worth of work on the new Boeing 777X, much of the attention was focused on what it would mean for union members’ future and where the work would go following their rejection.
As the long-term contract they voted down had numerous concessions, it is understandable that it would have been a hard sell to get the members to accept it. Yet, that hard sell by local union leaders did not take place.
In fact, the proposed contract was torn up by IAM District 751 President Tom Wroblewski, who called the contract a “piece of crap.”
Now, as the work is likely heading elsewhere, more news coming out of Puget Sound that helps explain the union membership’s overwhelming rejection of the deal.
According to Heraldnet.com, local union members and local union leadership were shut out of the negotiations entirely.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
Boeing...leave the Soviet state of Washington, and relocate in one of America’s remnants like East Tennessee, Alabama, or South Carolina. Provide union-free jobs to people that would appreciate them.
I thought some raghead just ordered billions in 777,’s.
The politics of this union, based on its organization, made the organizers at the community level just another employee. That the unions fighting for their lives nationally see the writing on the walls from the Capital in DC whereas the local’s do not show that after 2014 the prospect for another rash of Gov. Walker success against the unions should not be anticipated.
It sounds to me like the Union is playing games — it wants to have it both ways.
They want to say they rejected it and didn’t reject it both at the same time.
I clicked on a link below the story. Apparently, BOE is considering sending the job to the Middle East. Up is down, left is right...
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I spoke to a top union leader, back in the day when I was in the Auto Industry.
In a causal setting, just talking, he was steadfast in his goals>His union would be the highest paid employees, even if the cost was one person employed.
Unions usually get what they really desire
That’s exactly right. Boeing has indicated for a long time it wants to leave Washington and take its high-paying jobs to a non-union state, where they more control over productivity.
They should lose all contracts if they try to go anywhere else other than the USA.
The 787 Dreamliner is already being built in Charleston, SC. There are plans for a 3,000 house development in Summerville. The economy is set to boom there.
MY uncle was a union {thug} leader back in the 70's and one Westinghouse plant near Pittsburgh employed 12,000 with high paying jobs and with great benefits.
The union did every thing they could to obstruct, defy, and defeat Westinghouse management, as they looked at their employer as a mortal enemy to be defeated, not as their source of income.
I constantly was in a verbal battle with my uncle and told him that Westinghouse would shut the plant down but he and his cronies just laughed.
My uncle is long dead but before he died he witnessed the closing of the plant and the loss of income for 12,000 families.
Until the day he died, he blamed the greedy "bosses" and not the action of the union thieves and thugs.
Like all demonRATs, logic had no place in his thought process.
MY uncle was a union {thug} leader back in the 70's and one Westinghouse plant near Pittsburgh employed 12,000 with high paying jobs and with great benefits.
The union did every thing they could to obstruct, defy, and defeat Westinghouse management, as they looked at their employer as a mortal enemy to be defeated, not as their source of income.
I constantly was in a verbal battle with my uncle and told him that Westinghouse would shut the plant down but he and his cronies just laughed.
My uncle is long dead but before he died he witnessed the closing of the plant and the loss of income for 12,000 families.
Until the day he died, he blamed the greedy "bosses" and not the action of the union thieves and thugs.
Like all demonRATs, logic had no place in his thought process.
There are airports near Fort Worth and San Antonio in Texas that will be more than happy to expand to accommodate Boeing if they decide to move 777-8 and 777-9 prodution out of the Everett, WA plant. I hope the IAM in the Seattle area better realize this is not an idle threat, either.
Three big Arab airlines placed orders for more than a billion dollars worth of 777s. Now, we’ll see who gets to build them.
At the end there was a link to another article stating Boeing may move the production to the middle east. That’s definitely out of a union state but the American worker also looses on that one. I was hoping they might move it to S.C. or a right to work state.
“Boeing already has a relationship with UAE aerospace company Strata, a unit of Abu Dhabi government investment vehicle Mubadala. Last year, Boeing and Mubadala announced a 10-year direct contract to produce commercial composite aerostructures for the 777 and 787 Dreamliner at Strata’s facility in Al Ain, as well as signing a strategic agreement for Strata to be a future supplier of the vertical fin for the 787 Dreamliner.”
Another article at the link says they could move to the Middle East.
In the late 80s I was sent to Seattle to integrate one of my board designs that was part of a Secret "Star Wars" project. The schedule was quite tight.
The Air Force and top Boeing people had me work with a very small team in the middle of the night without any Union people knowing. They said if we worked normal hours with the "Union rules" we would never meet the schedule.
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