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Prohibition Era Rules Prevent Michigan Bars From Having Glasses or Napkins With Logos
Capitol Confidential ^ | 11/8/2013 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 11/12/2013 9:15:56 AM PST by MichCapCon

Every year, Ashley's restaurant in Westland holds a Belgian Beer Festival that highlights more than 60 different Belgian drafts.

Ashley's owner Jeff More says that due to state laws and regulations that date back to the Prohibition Era, he pays twice for glasses with Belgian logos on them and can only use the glasses for the 11 days of the festival.

More said the kegs are shipped with the special glasses to beer distributors in Michigan and the price includes the cost of the glasses. But because of an archaic state law, Ashley's also has to pay the distributor for the glasses. That's because the state's "aid and assistance" law prevents any vendor from providing anything of value for free to any wholesaler, manufacturer, grocery bar or tavern.

On the final day of the festival, all the glasses with logos have to be removed from the bar, which More said requires a truck.

"I paid for it," More said. "Shouldn’t I get to use it?"

The restrictions are part of the convoluted laws and regulations that are being debated in Lansing and involve the distribution of alcohol in Michigan.

A bill from Sen. Joe Hune, R-Hamburg, would add to the state's alcohol laws. He introduced Senate Bill 505, which would prevent manufacturers and wholesalers from giving vendors any item that has advertising on it for the use of anything but advertising. For example, a manufacturer couldn’t provide a bar with a beer mug with a Bud Light logo on it or a napkin with the Jack Daniels logo.

In fact, the Michigan Liquor Control Commission has a rule that doesn't allow bars to have beer glasses or napkins with logos on their premises. If SB 505 passed, the bill would make law of the liquor commission's current rule.

Michigan didn't even allow bars to put up illuminated advertising signs until Attorney General Mike Cox issued an opinion in 2004 that said the ban was unconstitutional and an infringement of the First Amendment.

Andy Deloney, chairman of the Michigan Liquor Control Commission, said the liquor commission is going to look at the commission's bar logo rule, which some think may have spurred the legislation.

But he said even if the MLCC allowed barware with logos, the state's "aid and assistance" law still would apply and not allow establishments to receive free barware with logos on them. The restaurants and taverns would have to buy those items.

According to The National Alcohol Beverage Control Association's 2012 survey, Michigan and Kentucky are the only states that prohibit any "retail merchandising specialties." But several states have varying stipulations about what is allowed. For example, in Ohio, barware advertising is allowed but items can't be valued at more than $25 each. In Illinois, advertising on barware is allowed but the restaurant or bar much purchase it.

More said Ashley's was able to get the glassware with logos for its festival because the state made a rare exception. He said he disagrees with the state's restrictions.

"There isn't a rational reason (for the restrictions) except to inhibit business growth in the state," More said. "If you are a beer distributor and you don't want to give away free beer ware, then don’t do it."

Troy Tuggle, spokesman for Sen. Hune, didn't respond to a request for comment.

Mike Lashbrook, president of the Michigan Beer & Wine Wholesalers Association, didn't respond to an email seeking comment.


TOPICS: Food
KEYWORDS: alcohol; beer

1 posted on 11/12/2013 9:15:56 AM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

I can see the word, “barware,” making its way into the computer industry one day soon!


2 posted on 11/12/2013 9:25:22 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: MichCapCon

The Prohibition Era Law reminds me of a Mark Twain quote which goes something like, “Nothing needs reforming nearly as much as other people’s habits.” It was true then and Bloomberg and the First Lady are busy at it today. Infuriating !


3 posted on 11/12/2013 9:30:21 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: MichCapCon

In my misspent youth in Indiana, you had to ask to the Bar Tender to move your drink if you wanted to change seats.


4 posted on 11/12/2013 9:33:40 AM PST by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: JimSEA

Stupid laws certainly aren’t just a product of today.


5 posted on 11/12/2013 9:41:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MichCapCon
"On the final day of the festival, all the glasses with logos have to be removed from the bar, which More said requires a truck.

"I paid for it," More said. "Shouldn’t I get to use it?"

Thank goodness the gooberment is here to keep us safe from business owners that put company logos on their drinking glasses.

6 posted on 11/12/2013 9:42:54 AM PST by GregoTX (Keep Calm and Cruz On)
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To: MichCapCon

Why can’t people play with Legos in a Michigan bar? It’s a free country, isn’t it? What? Logos? Sorry.


7 posted on 11/12/2013 9:56:35 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MichCapCon

The other night on Bar Rescue, Jon Taffer walked into a Tennessee bar that was handing out matchbooks with their logo and address on them. Taffer made them immediately get rid of them due to liability issues. (”somebody gets into a drunk driving accident and a matchbook with your logo on it just happens to be in the vehicle...”)

So in retrospect this law may not be such a bad idea for the bar owner.


8 posted on 11/12/2013 10:34:39 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: blueunicorn6

When I lived in Michigan the big thing in bars was Dwarf Bowling.

Of course the state stepped in and banned that too.


9 posted on 11/12/2013 10:35:24 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: blueunicorn6

LOL!


10 posted on 11/12/2013 10:37:47 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Why, many’s the time I’ve been bowling with dwarves. They’re not good at picking up splits, though. What? You use them as the bowling ball? I’ll be. Where do you stick your thumb to get a grip on them? Never mind.


11 posted on 11/12/2013 10:44:33 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Basically they would strap the dwarf to a skateboard and drunks would roll them down an aisle headfirst into plastic bowling pins. When the state banned it I recall a TV interview with a dwarf steamed over his loss of income.


12 posted on 11/12/2013 10:52:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I think that’s how Chris Matthews got his start.


13 posted on 11/12/2013 11:02:36 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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