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Guns, Pot, and Bernie Goetz
Shout Bits Blog ^ | 11/4/13 | Shout Bits

Posted on 11/04/2013 9:47:51 AM PST by Shout Bits

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1 posted on 11/04/2013 9:47:51 AM PST by Shout Bits
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To: Shout Bits

A street drug pusher at age 65? He sure let his supporters down.


2 posted on 11/04/2013 10:03:50 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Shout Bits

If it keeps him off the dole, more power to him. I`ll bet his pot is killer... /s


3 posted on 11/04/2013 10:17:27 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: ansel12

Considering the sham civil trial broke him financially it makes sense to me that he would be operating in a black market where his earnings would not be confiscated and given to one of the thugs that basically ruined his life. As for letting his supporters down you are right, he should have gone into arms dealing.


4 posted on 11/04/2013 10:18:01 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Drug sales, I’m not used to sham conservatives supporting that, but conservatism is dying.


5 posted on 11/04/2013 10:25:37 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Shout Bits

I thought he died? He has to work to support the pos that tried to rob him and then sued him. Bernie aim for the head next time and don’t turn yourself in.


6 posted on 11/04/2013 10:31:55 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Shout Bits

The media sees here a way of getting revenge. Bernie won and liberalism lost when Bernie shot common street thugs who thought they could have some fun with a White boy who looked like he wouldn’t be able to defend himself. This is a typical tactic the subhuman savages use: they pick on an old lady or man, or a baby. This is why normal people need to defend themselves from the snail slime.


7 posted on 11/04/2013 10:46:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: ansel12
Drug sales, I’m not used to sham conservatives supporting that, but conservatism is dying.

And where exactly in your definition of conservatism is it illegal to sell or partake in something between consenting adults? I think you are much more REPUBLICAN than CONSERVATIVE but not quite sharp enough to see the difference.

A real conservative would believe in personal responsibility. I know I do. If he wants to smoke or sell weed, there's nothing wrong with that. If he ends up having problems because if it, it's his own fault. Plenty of people can handle having some drinks, smoking some pot, or taking some pills without you nanny types thinking they know best. Conservative should embrace it as a personal choice. Republicans who think that they should be able to control this at the force of a gun are no better than Democrats.

8 posted on 11/04/2013 11:22:20 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Great points! I would also like someone who favors federal regulation of narcotics to tell me where in the Constitution the federal government derives the power to regulate what substances an adult citizen can or cannot consume.

Sure, drugs are not good for people. However, alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods, and numerous other LEGAL things are not good for people either. Either the government has the right to regulate our behavior for our own good or it does not. I would argue that it does not.


9 posted on 11/04/2013 11:30:08 AM PST by stremba
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To: stremba

BTW,

Don’t give me any arguments that legal drug use would lead to increased crime. Legal alcohol use or legal tobacco use does not lead to such increases in crime. Even if true, then such crimes should certainly be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Alcohol leads to a lot of criminal behavior. Just go to areas with a lot of bars and partying on weekends. There are increased incidences of assaults and sometimes homicides due to alcohol consumption. There are also drunk drivers who injure and kill people as a direct result of alcohol consumption. We still don’t criminalize the actual consumption of alcohol; we criminalize the behaviors that are caused by that consumption. Why should other drugs be treated differently?


10 posted on 11/04/2013 11:34:06 AM PST by stremba
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To: stremba
However, alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods, and numerous other LEGAL things are not good for people either

They are all government regulated to some degree, aren't they?

11 posted on 11/04/2013 11:35:50 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Yes, it is conservative to be against drug dealers.

Your argument that selling illegal drugs on the streets is conservative is beyond silly.

This is the same kind of thing the hard left has been doing for 40 years, they just say the most insane things, up is down, down is up, until they get the laws and cultural breakdown that they are pushing for.

You may as well tell us that accepting gay marriage is conservative, how about abortion, porn, homosexuals in the military?

If you want to argue for those things, then do it, but don’t get so silly as to claim that they are conservative.


12 posted on 11/04/2013 11:40:18 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: stremba

I don’t think that Goetz was busted by the feds was he?

Is this now, yet another doper thread?


13 posted on 11/04/2013 11:42:43 AM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: Shout Bits

“The AP itself concedes that then there were 40 serious crimes per day in the Subway system.” 40 serious crimes a day was an acceptable price to pay for a mass transit system in a large city. Goetz’s action was not. After he defended himself the subway system was flooded with police. Self-defense will not be tolerated.


14 posted on 11/04/2013 12:13:46 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: ansel12
Thanks you for confirm that you yourself are a nanny state control freak.

Using and selling drugs is perfectly conservative. Drugs aren't a sin and are only illegal due to an un-Constitutional overreach by the government. Care to point out a clause in the Constitution to show me otherwise or are you gonna just keep talking out of your ass?

Gay marriage? Not conservative because of the marriage part. Gasys can get together all they want and enter into any legal agreements that and free person can, but it's not marriage.

Abortion? I have the perfectly conservative view that respects a women's right to choose...to not get pregnant. Once she is pregnant then there is a child involved and that child has rights.

Porn? Perfectly conservative that people should be free to make their own choices. You see ,unlike you, I understand that if someone is granted to power to declare porn illegal, they might also use that power to declare other things illegal. Again, consenting adults can do what they want as long as they bear the costs of their decisions themselves.

Homosexuals in the military? - No one has the right to be in the military. I had medical issues that kept me out. Other things can keep other people out. If we were attacked as a country and there was fighting in the streets, I know I wouldn't give one bit of a damn who the person fighting next to me wanted to screw as long as they were fighting for our Constitution.

I think that you are probably a nice person, but apparently just a tad dense. If being a conservative means what you think it means I don't want any part of it. My definition is to follow the Constitution as written. Your definition seems to include shaded of Republicanism and puritanism. no thanks.

15 posted on 11/04/2013 12:16:17 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: ansel12
One more thing. You said: "Yes, it is conservative to be against drug dealers."

What is a pharmacist? Are they not drug dealers? Before you answer, they possess (or have physical control of) drugs of various types and they sell them to the public for money. Correct? The only difference between them is government approval.

What kind of moron thinks the government should be in control? The ansel12 kind, apparently. Some conservative you are.

16 posted on 11/04/2013 12:22:11 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Great, a real nut case, thanks for sharing your biography and inner most thoughts with us, we were so eager to have you share all that.


17 posted on 11/04/2013 3:35:13 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: ansel12

Wow, if my comments on ol’ Bernie selling $30 bucks worth of pot brought out that reaction, you’ll really get the vapors if I let on my support for traffic camera scofflaws.


18 posted on 11/04/2013 4:28:17 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder

You need to lay off the caffeine, your hysteria is showing.


19 posted on 11/04/2013 4:33:18 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper; All

Both prohibition and making drugs illegal are laws pushed by “progressives”. They did away with prohibition because it was such an abject failure, but they added the “war on drugs” because it is a clear nanny state plus up in so many ways.

All drugs were legal until the progressives made them illegal in the 1920’s. Yes, we had problems with people becoming addicted to opium. It worked better than the current prohibition by a long shot.


20 posted on 11/04/2013 5:36:39 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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