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Hoyer: Dems knew some patients would lose ins plans under ObamaCare (misled to allay fears)
The Hill ^ | October 29, 2913 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 10/29/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats knew all along that some patients would lose their health insurance plans under the new law, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) acknowledged on Tuesday.

Although President Obama had vowed repeatedly that, under his signature healthcare initiative, those who like their plans could keep them, millions of patients are reportedly in individual plans that don't meet the law's minimum coverage criteria, forcing them to buy better insurance.

Hoyer, the House minority whip, said Democrats were aware that such a shift was coming. He defended the change by arguing that those patients would ultimately benefit by getting better insurance, many of them at a lower price than they currently pay.

"We knew that there would be some policies that would not qualify, and therefore people would be required to get more extensive coverage," Hoyer said during a press briefing in the Capitol.

The promise that patients could retain their current coverage was designed, Hoyer said, "to allay the fears of somebody that had insurance — group insurance, for the most part — that do meet the criteria."

"We've used that [message] in trying to allay the fears of people who have group policies or significant coverage … through their employer, which was the overwhelming number," he said. "I think we could have caveated [to say], 'Unless you have coverage that's insufficient to accomplish the objectives of giving you adequate, quality healthcare.'"

Pressed as to whether Obama and the Democrats misled the public on the topic, Hoyer conceded the party's message could have been better articulated.

"I don't think the message was wrong. I think the message was accurate. But it was not precise enough," he said. "Clearly, it should have been caveated with, 'Assuming you have a policy that, in fact, does do what the bill is designed to do.' "

Under the 2010 healthcare law, insurance plans have to cover a basic scope of services to be considered viable under the individual mandate.

On Monday, NBC News reported that at least half of the 14 million Americans who have individual coverage are in plans that don't meet those minimum standards.

Republicans have pounced on the news, arguing that the broken promise is just another reason to scrap the entire law.

"I’ve heard from hundreds of my constituents who are seeing their premiums rise. They’re seeing their policies being canceled," Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said Tuesday. "Many, again, are losing their plans."

Hoyer, for his part, defended the shift, arguing the better coverage — which includes preventative care requirements — would pay dividends down the line for both patients and taxpayers alike.

"The principle that the Heritage Foundation articulated was that everybody needed to take personal responsibility so they did not become the responsibility of the public to assist them in their health insurance," he said. "So what we said in the legislation, 'Look, you've got to have some minimal converge so you meet that responsibility.'"

But he also acknowledged that the developments have put the Democrats in a difficult spot politically.

"I'm dying to see the headlines," he said as he left the press conference.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: democrat; liars; lies; lying; obamacaredefrauds; obamacarelies; obamalies; richandpooraca; richandpoorobamacare; stenyhoyer; whocanaffordzerocare; youcankeepit
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They LIED to keep you from worrying.
1 posted on 10/29/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wow, a crazy Dem actually told the truth.
I'm going outside to look for flying pigs...

2 posted on 10/29/2013 12:04:44 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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They LIED to steal elections!


3 posted on 10/29/2013 12:04:46 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s see - he defended it by saying that the ones that lost their insurance plans would benefit by getting better coverage . . . ah, if they could afford it. You forgot to mention that part.


4 posted on 10/29/2013 12:05:16 PM PDT by USNA74
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How many are going to die because of these human waste?? No one is talking about that detail.


5 posted on 10/29/2013 12:07:45 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“’Unless you have coverage that’s insufficient to accomplish the objectives of giving you adequate, quality healthcare.’”

I’ll decide what is ‘adequate’ for me an my family, you a-hole, not the Democrat Party!


6 posted on 10/29/2013 12:07:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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".......The promise that patients could retain their current coverage was designed, Hoyer said, "to allay the fears of somebody that had insurance — group insurance, for the most part — that do meet the criteria."............
7 posted on 10/29/2013 12:11:23 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." - Barack Obama
8 posted on 10/29/2013 12:11:27 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They LIED to steal elections!

No truer words could be spoken!


9 posted on 10/29/2013 12:14:37 PM PDT by stevecmd
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Under the 2010 healthcare law, insurance plans have to cover a basic scope of services to be considered viable under the individual mandate.”

Application to grandfathered health plans. Under the statute and these interim final regulations, a grandfathered health plan that is a group health plan or group health insurance coverage must comply with the PHS Act section 2704 prohibition against preexisting condition exclusions; however, a grandfathered health plan that is individual health insurance coverage is not required to comply with PHS Act section 2704. See 26 CFR 54.9815-1251T, 29 CFR 2590.715-1251, and 45 CFR 147.140 regarding status as a grandfathered health plan.


10 posted on 10/29/2013 12:14:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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Yeah, Steny. We knew too. Problem was, no one would listen. Oh well. Sucks to be them.


11 posted on 10/29/2013 12:14:58 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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"I don't think the message was wrong. I think the message was accurate. But it was not precise enough," he said. "Clearly, it should have been caveated with, 'Assuming you have a policy that, in fact, does do what the bill is designed to do.'---Stenty aHoy'ya "

Ah yes, the old LIEberal bait and switch nuanced triangulated speech.

12 posted on 10/29/2013 12:17:08 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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DemoRats Lied and HealthCare Died.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 12:18:06 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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Would it be possible to put the DIMocRAT politicians in prison...all of them? LIARS.


14 posted on 10/29/2013 12:18:09 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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White House Video of Obama “Guaranteeing” You Can Keep Your Insurance Under Obamacare Still Up
15 posted on 10/29/2013 12:19:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: hal ogen

They are lying to the grand jury—that’s us the American citizens.


16 posted on 10/29/2013 12:20:58 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hoyer perfectly confirms Orwell’s warning that the worst kind of totalitarians are the ones who do it for your own good.

Liberals just love the idea of turning people into the government’s pets.


17 posted on 10/29/2013 12:20:59 PM PDT by Yardstick
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Read the Law

The Affordable Care Act was passed by Congress and then signed into law by the President on March 23, 2010. On June 28, 2012 the Supreme Court rendered a final decision to uphold the health care law. •Read the Supreme Court’s Decision on the Affordable Care Act (PDF – 779 KB)

The Affordable Care Act, Section by Section

Below you will find all 10 Titles of the Affordable Care Act, with amendments to the law called for by the reconciliation process. Click on each Title to see a brief outline and then read the law section by section.

Title I. Quality, Affordable Health Care for All Americans

This Act puts individuals, families and small business owners in control of their health care. It reduces premium costs for millions of working families and small businesses by providing hundreds of billions of dollars in tax relief – the largest middle class tax cut for health care in history. It also reduces what families will have to pay for health care by capping out-of-pocket expenses and requiring preventive care to be fully covered without any out-of-pocket expense. For Americans with insurance coverage who like what they have, they can keep it. Nothing in this act or anywhere in the bill forces anyone to change the insurance they have, period.

Press Here

18 posted on 10/29/2013 12:23:40 PM PDT by kcvl
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19 posted on 10/29/2013 12:26:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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The Secretary has the authority to implement many of these new provisions to help families and small business owners have the information they need to make the choices that work best for them.

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Americans without insurance coverage will be able to choose the insurance coverage that works best for them in a new open, competitive insurance market – the same insurance market that every member of Congress will be required to use for their insurance. The insurance exchange will pool buying power and give Americans new affordable choices of private insurance plans that have to compete for their business based on cost and quality. Small business owners will not only be able to choose insurance coverage through this exchange, but will receive a new tax credit to help offset the cost of covering their employees.

20 posted on 10/29/2013 12:27:07 PM PDT by kcvl
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