Climate change is dominated by the water cycle, not carbon dioxide

Washington times ^ | October 7, 2013 | Steve Goreham

[kathsua]

CHICAGO, October 7, 2013 — Climate scientists are obsessed with carbon dioxide. The newly released Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claims that “radiative forcing” from human-emitted CO2 is the leading driver of climate change. Carbon dioxide is blamed for everything from causing more droughts, floods, and hurricanes, to endangering polar bears and acidifying the oceans. But Earth’s climate is dominated by water, not carbon dioxide.

Earth’s water cycle encompasses the salt water of the oceans, the fresh water of rivers and lakes, and frozen icecaps and glaciers. It includes water flows within and between the oceans, atmosphere, and land, in the form of evaporation, precipitation, storms and weather. The water cycle contains enormous energy flows that shape Earth’s climate, temperature trends, and surface features. Water effects are orders of magnitude larger than the feared effects of carbon dioxide.

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Sunlight falls directly on the Tropics, where much energy is absorbed, and indirectly on the Polar Regions, where less energy is absorbed. All weather on Earth is driven by a redistribution of heat from the Tropics to the Polar Regions. Evaporation creates massive tropical storm systems, which move heat energy north to cooler latitudes. Upper level winds, along with the storm fronts, cyclones, and ocean currents of Earth’s water cycle, redistribute heat energy from the Tropics to the Polar Regions.

[kathsua]

This makes a lot more sense than the claim that a minor gas like carbon dioxide controls climate.

[Southack]

Especially since CO2 is a coolant, not an insulator.

[Southack]

“radiative forcing” is thermal conductivity. Items that conduct heat well are known as coolants or sinks.

Items that conduct heat poorly are known as insulators.

[djf]

A fifty foot change in the oceanic thermocline could easily mitigate 10,000 years of climate change...

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

CO2, good for plant growth - makes more “carbon” - well, BECOMES THE carbon in trees.

You’d think tree-huggers would be orgasmic over it.

[Cowgirl]

Japan will see to our demise.

[Cowgirl]

Japan will see to our demise.

[Pete]

It only takes like 5 minutes of google research to figure out that water vapor is the biggest variable and the hardest to account for in computer models. The argument was over literally years ago but the money involved causes it to linger.

[mazda77]

Tree huggers, just like all of the other faux-concern wingnuts, are not interested in either the truth or a solution to their particular issue.

They are only interested in whether that issue can get dupes to give them money to “fight” the issue which in turn actually fights against capitalism. Some years ago, the soviets and other communists/socialists realized that environmentalism was the new mechanism to fight the west when their own mechanism failed miserably. That mechanism was the USSR.

It is just as simple as that. They are fighting us with our own system.

[abclily]

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls our climates.

3. The earth is a rock.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?

[SC_Pete]

Climate scientists are government grant recipients.

[meatloaf]

They’re looking for the dimmer switch.

[Moltke]

Yes, but the water cycle is driven by CO2 levels. /IPCC press release

[Dixie Yooper]

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?

Have you ever heard of The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

[Flick Lives]

Obviously the government will have to ban water.

[spokeshave]

Yeah....and what controls the water cycle....THE SUN....

Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

[Triple]

H20 and energy from the sun the two main factors impacting the Earth’s climate, by a long-shot.

[Cyber Liberty]

A “problem” easily solved: Declare water a pollutant.

[wastoute]

Trying to argue reason with illiterate clods is futile, no matter how smart they think they are.

[zeugma]

A “problem” easily solved: Declare water a pollutant.

I believe that has already been done. Seriously. Can't remember where I read it, but I think it was FR