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High Taxes Make Cigarettes 'Gold Bars' For Thieves
Capitol Confidential ^ | 9/29/2013 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 10/01/2013 9:08:27 AM PDT by MichCapCon

Early Sept. 13, three men involved in a robbery tried to run over a Warren police officer in a minivan that, according to police, had an estimated $10,000 worth of merchandise. Two of the men were shot trying to flee.

However, the loot wasn't cash or jewelry. Instead, police said they were after cigarettes, which Michael LaFaive, fiscal policy analyst at the Mackinac Center For Public Policy calls "gold bars."

"It happens all the time," said Lt. Heidi Metz of the Warren Police Department. "Almost all tobacco stores have security systems. They've been targeted."

They have been targeted, LaFaive said, because the high taxes on cigarettes inflates their value.

In 1947, Michigan’s cigarette excise tax rate was three cents a pack, which when adjusted for inflation would be 31 cents today. The cigarette tax in Michigan is $2 a pack.

"Cigarettes are often more attractive to robbers than cash registers and safes because they don't need to be opened or unbolted from counters," LaFaive said. "A window is smashed and cigarettes are lifted. The incentive here is provided by lawmakers who have helped make them more valuable to thieves than they would otherwise be through tax policy. By artificially lifting the price of cigarettes by $2 a pack lawmakers stimulate demand by thieves for trafficking in the stolen product. This also increases the attractiveness of robbing wholesalers and retailers because the state-mandated tax stamp (evidencing taxes have been paid) is already on the smokes. That makes it easier to pass them off elsewhere as the Real McCoy."

With some of the highest cigarette taxes in the nation, it is estimated that 29 percent of cigarettes in Michigan are smuggled.

Dale Brown, commander of Detroit private security company, CSG Security, said protecting cigarette distributors has become their "bread and butter."

"These cigarette distributors in this region hire staff as bodyguards for their trucks making deliveries," Brown said. "The only reason they afford this expense is because they have to."

Brown said cigarette deliveries need private protection or the trucks will be robbed.

"You turn your head for a minute, they are on you," he said. "They are going to strike. They are going to get robbed, guaranteed. It's definitely lucrative. It's an unprotected resource of a high value product that can easily be redistributed and sold elsewhere. The level of violence also increased."

For example, Admiral Discount Tobacco stores were robbed at gunpoint in May in Wyoming and in Manistee County in January of 2012, according to media reports.

A spokeswoman for Admiral Tobacco store refused to comment.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cigarettes; taxes
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1 posted on 10/01/2013 9:08:27 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

So when you tax them out of existence, where are you going to get your mega-slush fund money from to piss away on crony payoffs, funding un-American activities, and supporting perversion? You gonna tax Gerbils and buttplugs then?


2 posted on 10/01/2013 9:10:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MichCapCon

While smuggling is a time honored way of keeping the tax man out of your pocket, cigarette robbery is just as bad as any other form of theft.


3 posted on 10/01/2013 9:12:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MichCapCon

Anybody know what a carton of smokes costs now? Retail & black market?


4 posted on 10/01/2013 9:18:15 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bamaÂ’s America)
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To: shove_it
The tobacco I grow in the garden is free and untaxed.

/johnny

5 posted on 10/01/2013 9:22:17 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: MichCapCon

Obviously with high cigarette taxes bootlegging them is a growth industry for organized crime. However ordinary citizens are becoming bootleggers in states like Minnesota where the price of cigarettes is nearly double that of surrounding states. In border cities like East Grand Forks and Moorehead, smokers can just drive a few blocks to buy their smokes in North Dakota where the cost per pack is half that in Minnesota. I am certain that smoke shops in Wisconsin, Iowa and South Dakota are also seeing increased business from Minnesota smokers dodging the high prices back home.


6 posted on 10/01/2013 9:24:12 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: shove_it

Fifty years ago, author Pat Frank (”Alas Babylon”) wrote a postnuclear survival manual in which he stated,

“The day may come when a pound of tobacco is worth more than a pound of gold.”

He also recommended stocking up on .22lr `bricks’ as an alternate currency.

Anyway, lots of smokers out there. Demand, meet supply.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 9:25:03 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: shove_it

The small Korean store a mile from us charges around $9.00 a pack.(WA)


8 posted on 10/01/2013 9:27:05 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: shove_it

“Anybody know what a carton of smokes costs now? Retail & black market?”

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Retail,MA, about $90.00-—I don’t know about black market.


9 posted on 10/01/2013 9:30:47 AM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art ot being easily offended.)
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To: shove_it

I was in line at the supermarket last week. The lady in front of me bought a carton of Marlboros. $50.

I do not think our tax is as high as Michigan.


10 posted on 10/01/2013 9:31:35 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: shove_it

Legal retail in NYC is just north of $140/carton

Legal retail of the same product, exported to AFG, is $4/Carton (That includes shipping costs)

So, figure $136 of the NY $140 is tax, is one form or another


11 posted on 10/01/2013 9:32:14 AM PDT by patton (“Really? Have you tried chewing cloves?”)
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To: elcid1970

WOW!

According to Answers.com the retail price for a carton in Mich is about $60 a carton. Back in the 60s I should have bought a warehouse full of ‘em at $2.50/carton.


12 posted on 10/01/2013 9:39:19 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bamaÂ’s America)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Can’t grow it too well in SF Bay Area, but finally grew a few pitiful little plants that are now drying in the garage.


13 posted on 10/01/2013 9:40:11 AM PDT by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: shove_it

“Anybody know what a carton of smokes costs now?”

Texas, $40-42, it varies, carton of Pall Mall longs, regular not menthol.


14 posted on 10/01/2013 9:41:55 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: patton

What is AFG?


15 posted on 10/01/2013 9:43:37 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

A country in the middle east - perhaps you have heard of it.

“Afghanistan”

;)


16 posted on 10/01/2013 9:45:54 AM PDT by patton (“Really? Have you tried chewing cloves?”)
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To: Gaffer
OH MY GOD.... YOU just did it...son.. You, lad have won the Jimsin First Prize Chicken Dinner AWARD. A coveted prize bestowed only on Men like you whose posts represent the highest pinnacle of Conservative Thought. Posts which reach up far and away and above and beyond the call of Conservative Culture....Bless you lad, keep up the good work; we will be looking for even greater contributions from your keyboard going forward.


17 posted on 10/01/2013 9:46:00 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: MichCapCon

Remember the days past when you can slot in a quarter or two
and pull the knob for a pack of smokes? Look what Big Govt has done to flux everything up.


18 posted on 10/01/2013 9:46:41 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: from occupied ga

Cigarette smuggling from Kentucky to Chicago is a HUGE business. A Carton of Marlboro sells legally in Kentucky for $40 a carton, while that same carton costs $100 or MORE in Chicago.

With those kinds of margins, it can pay BIG to make the run on the weekend. Many people do just that, and sell out of the trunk..


19 posted on 10/01/2013 10:16:23 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Gaffer
So when you tax them out of existence, where are you going to get your mega-slush fund money from to piss away on crony payoffs, funding un-American activities, and supporting perversion?

Further, they are making the mob's life so much easier. The biggest proponent of higher cigarette taxes is organized crime.

Without government, creating markets for them, the mafia might have to go out and get real jobs.

 

20 posted on 10/01/2013 10:39:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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