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To: Jacquerie
You mean that having Senators elected directly by their states would lead to lessened respect for States Rights and more federal power? The forces to centralize power are not found in the simple difference of a state house elected a representative. That's just part of the human condition that the Costitution tried to hold back like a dam.

I promise you, the Carolina house and senate would send LG right back to the Senate, and would never have put Jim DeMint or Tim Scott in office. I think things are better as they are.

43 posted on 09/21/2013 1:13:35 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
You mean that having Senators elected directly by their states would lead to lessened respect for States Rights . . .

No. Did you read what I wrote regarding the courts? I mean going back to the founder's system means more power to the states at the expense of the consolidated government in DC.

Even if the SC legislature sent Graham back, his perspective and voting would be entirely different.

It is stupid to have two popularly elected houses in congress. The senate was designed to dam the whims of the mob in the house. Today, because of the 17th, senators are worse than three term congressmen.

Return adult supervision, return the states to the senate. Repeal the 17th.

47 posted on 09/21/2013 1:46:22 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: Mamzelle; Impy; BillyBoy

Don’t bother trying to argue the reality of the membership of a legislatively-elected Senate with Jacquerie. She’s been told repeatedly that it would populated with the same radical leftist Democrats from Democrat states and people like Ted Cruz would never get elected, but lots of statist liberal RINOs would, like Crist in FL (now a Democrat), DewCrist in TX & even Karl Rove as a thank-you to Dubya. No thanks to a moronic idea like repealing the 17th !


48 posted on 09/21/2013 1:50:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Mamzelle; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Don’t listen to Jacquerie, he or she is full of it when it comes to the ridiculous fantasy that a bunch of politicians would choose better Senators or somehow make them vote better. Utter and complete nonsense.


68 posted on 09/21/2013 11:49:36 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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