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This had been floating around in my head for a while. Lily Eskelsen Garcia's comments and more recent events pushed me to complete it.
1 posted on 07/14/2013 8:05:46 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak

No


2 posted on 07/14/2013 8:06:32 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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Nope. Not at all.


3 posted on 07/14/2013 8:08:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I’d prefer talk to God about it later rather than sooner.


4 posted on 07/14/2013 8:08:42 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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People have debated it for a long time. But, remember, the Bible makes a distinction between kill and murder ...
5 posted on 07/14/2013 8:08:52 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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"But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."
6 posted on 07/14/2013 8:11:09 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! It's all your fault now, you own it.)
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Nope. Please refer to the Catechism of the Catholic Church 2263-2267.

From the same good people who assembled the Holy Bible itself.


8 posted on 07/14/2013 8:13:36 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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Only an idiot or an evil person with an agenda
for control would believe such a ludicrous thing.


9 posted on 07/14/2013 8:15:07 PM PDT by nvscanman
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The fact that Peter carried his sword and attacked with it when Jesus was arrested, tells me that it was always with him, and was for self defense, even though in that particular incident, Jesus didn’t want defending or the sword used.


11 posted on 07/14/2013 8:17:12 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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Is it sinful to kill in self-defense?

It is righteous and sanctioned by scripture to beat the
bloody hell out of blogpimps and fags. If they die as a
result they're just reaping the fruit they have themselves sown.

12 posted on 07/14/2013 8:18:29 PM PDT by humblegunner (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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No, it’s not a sin to kill in self defense.

God made my Soul, and for awhile gives me this Earthly body. HE has a time limit on my life, not another mortal.


13 posted on 07/14/2013 8:19:04 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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The “Arm-Chair Theologians” always throw out the commandment “Thou Shalt Not Kill.” If “killing” another human being was a “sin” then God would be full of “sin” by His act of the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah etc etc. The correct interpretation of the commandment is “Thou Shall Not Murder.” Defending life with lethal force is a judgment call that can be justified when warranted.


15 posted on 07/14/2013 8:19:18 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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Is it sinful to let yourself be killed if you are able to defend yourself?


18 posted on 07/14/2013 8:22:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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Is it sinful to kill in self-defense?

No, but it's sinful not to.

20 posted on 07/14/2013 8:23:28 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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Certainly not! Life - the first right - its preservation the prime directive.

I will not be part of the mass suicide that describes the contemporary ethos of the media, Academia, and of course, "our" government!



"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

21 posted on 07/14/2013 8:34:45 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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No! It is sinful to not value life and protect it from those that wish to end it. It is exactly why we also are against killing babies, something the liberals termed “abortion”.


22 posted on 07/14/2013 8:40:54 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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A good read: erudite and unaffected.
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23 posted on 07/14/2013 8:51:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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No.


26 posted on 07/14/2013 8:57:50 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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I don’t have the Bible sitting front of me but in the Old Testament (probably Deuteronomy or Leviticus) the laws regarding premeditated murder, manslaughter, and killing in self defense are all spelled out in detail.

Jesus said He did not come to do away with the Law, the Prophets, or the Commandments so the principles regarding self-defense are still in force.

As some of you mentioned, the teachings of Jesus regarding “turning the other cheek” have to do with your Christian witness, not in a situation where’s you are defending your family, a helpless person, or or country in a time of war.

Even on a case of being attacked physically because of your beliefs, I don’t believe that Jesus is commanding us to just stand there and take it. The Apostle Paul asserted his rights several times as a Roman citizen - once when he was about to be beaten he questioned the officer in charge and reminded him that what they were about to do was illegal - the officer ordered a stand down because he knew what Paul said was correct.

Jesus ‘s teachings in the Sermon on the Mt often use exaggerations to
make a point. For example He tells His listeners that unless they “hate” their mother and father they cannot be His disciples. Now Jesus did not literally mean that we are to hate your family, He meant that in comparison to their love for Him, their love for Him should be so great and deep that their love for their parents would seem like hatred.

He also uses these same type of exaggerations with the “turning the other cheek”, the “walk the second mile”, “give to whoever asks”, etc.

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Jesus doesn’t want His followers to be like Him and show radical love to even our enemies for that is exactly what He wants from us, but He never meant that one could not defend oneself when necessary.

Of course, there are Christians who are total pacifists and look to those very same passages as proof that Jesus meant all those commands to be taken literally. But, most conservative Christian scholars say that Jesus meant those commands to mean that His children are to be radically different than the world in their behavior, but not to the extreme where you don’t defend yourself or your family. Jesus was not speaking to those issues.


27 posted on 07/14/2013 9:01:00 PM PDT by Nevadan
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No.
That would mean it was a sin for America to stop the Nazi from destroying the world.
That would mean it is a sin to be a Police Officer or a Soldier.


29 posted on 07/14/2013 9:03:13 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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You have a moral responsibility to defend yourself from evil. To let that evil prevail without a fight is unconscionable as it encourages it further.
31 posted on 07/14/2013 9:14:25 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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