Posted on 07/14/2013 2:34:51 PM PDT by SatinDoll
Ann Barnhardt has been extolling at length about "starving the Beast". This is the same as what KD is discussing above.
I have been looking for work these past three years, but at age 61 it obviously is not in my future. I support myself by selling odds and ends on Ebay and Craigslist, never earning more that $450 a month. The house is paid for in full as is the 17-year old vehicle on the driveway out front. Lawn and planting beds around the property are being converted into edible vegetables plantings. I only spend $10 a week on food.
I am a producer only for my own survival.
All of you should think hard about an alternative to feeding the Beast.
“All of you should think hard about an alternative to feeding the Beast.”
Oh, Sweetheart, I am SO with you on this! Been planning my escape for quite some time. Got side-tracked due to a divorce and a scumbag ex who used all of our retirement savings for wine, women and song before I could stop it.
These past few years have been both a political and personal hell for so many of us. I know many others who are well past the point of no return.
I’m right behind you!
BTTTTTT
In all due respect, this article reminded me of Bernie de la Rionda’s closing argument the other day. It was all over the place.
“Not because there will be violence but because they cannot force those of us who are not violent but are productive to produce, and we can choose to not produce, withdrawing our consent in a form and fashion that the government cannot challenge or address.”
BUMP!
And America is a full-on fascist tyranny now.
That's not true at all. The prosecution gets to go last because it has the burden of proof. That's true in Federal courts and I don't know of a single state where it's not true also. Karl doesn't know what he's talking about here.
“F*ed”
Faed?
Feed?
Fied?
Foed?
Fued?
Fyed?
The blood of an Irishman?
I believe the end has already been written and I agree with much of what Karl says.
However, my life remains full and I work hard at my job, enjoy, love, and cherish my family, and help others as I see fit. I won’t “withdraw from the system” because the system is simply the landscape in which I live - no different than the mountains I look at now outside the window.
I am angry at what our nation is doing to my young children and their futures. However, I will still teach them to love, live, and enjoy life for what it is - a short moment in time. In an effort to be wise, I also devote some of my time and energy to preparing to care for my family and others if the need arises. We already provide much of the food we grow and produce to help others.
I will continue to be a producer because that is what God demands of me. I can’t control the rest of the landscape or story beyond trying to do the right thing. My kids will grow up and hopefully understand their father was a producer who provided a good life for them and others. I hope they follow my example and provide for those around them after I am gone.
Withdrawal for the sake of political argument places politics above the moral obligations of God. I can’t do it and respectfully submit that your path is not the answer. Furthermore, I would respectfully submit that the system will collapse of it’s own weight, through no fault of either of us. The government is already borrowing and printing money far beyond what is being produced and the math is impossible no matter how much they tax us.
Good Lord, this is good!
I agree with Rooster. While I appreciate the sentiment this is a bit of pie in the sky thinking. If all producers in FL were to stop producing tomorrow don’t you think other not-so-moral individuals would step in to take their places? And short of WWIII starting, how many will endure the inconvenience of raising their own food - especially all those living in apts.? I think a better place to start is to petition Gov. Scott to start the special prosecutor machine rolling and if he refuses to do the right thing then vote him out of office and advertise far and wide why he should be handed his hat. Let’s find someone that will have a back bone to face down the corruption in the state and the corruption that is engulfing our nation by the hours and minutes. Scott was not my first choice for governor while I was a FL resident but he has done some good things. I’d like to think he has the moral rectitude for the fight but if not Floridians should let him know in no uncertain terms.
Thanks for confirming what I was thinking. Karl is generally well-informed so that assertion by him on the order of arguments caused me to question what I thought I knew.
For a closing argument, this would be inappropriate. But it's not a closing argument - it's a discussion of the undelying causes and supports of the Zimmerman fiasco.
And it doesn't go far enough.
The bottom line of the article (and its discussion) is that: "The reason this sort of thing isn't unlawful is that the various industry "mavens" have gone to the government and jiggered the law such that they can get away with whatever it is that they'd like to do today."
But no one asks how this can be possible. Everyone accepts that it simply IS possible - that that's what the nature of the "law" is, something that can be bought and paid for, manipulated and changed by those in power or with money. And it's true, anywhere else, that's what law has always been throughout history. But not in America.
Americans are living a schizophrenic life concerning their own laws. They are in denial about the fact that what cannot be denied them under their unique Constitution, is somehow being massively denied to them. Because they are afraid of examining exactly how that denial is being accomplished, by an enemy that does nothing BUT deny them that legal protection 24/7.
Ultimately this issue is unavoidable - the fate of the country literally hangs in the balance. Things are getting worse and worse for the same reason a breakaway train running downhill goes faster and faster. It used to be that Americans understood the difference between rights and privileges, between common and statutory law, and between natural persons and corporations. And to the extent they did, they could fight back against the evil powers trying to take over the country.
But few people know or care about these things anymore, for a plethora of reasons - the sabotage of schools by liberal teachers, the sabotage of culture by liberal hypocrisy, the sabotage of manhood by feminists, and the general undermining of critical thinking altogether by political correctness. As a result, the imposition of corporate status on free human beings in the name of collectivism of every stripe has run amuck - and THAT is why the arguments in this article are taking place unrestrained, and even accelerating.
I wrote an analysis of Robert's Obamacare ruling that pointed out that Roberts tried to draw attention to this exact problem, and used his ruling to shine a laser beam it, only to be massively by the very country he was trying to teach. So when I reflect on how massively the country has either missed or denied this heroic effort of the Chief Justice, I don't feel so bad about not making the best seller list myself (for anyone who still thinks Roberts just threw in with the liberals, find out (for starters) when the Supreme Court ever had an exact 4-1-4 split before).
Still, it's hard to watch one's country be so openly and methodically destroyed when the solution to the destruction is so readily at hand - but for the will of its still (barely) free people to grasp it.
One Stone, Two Powers: How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America
I think you are suggesting the producers should ‘shrug’. A great concept but there will be much pain for everyone before the system corrects itself. Many, including, the good folks, would not survive...
Wow! You really summed it up beautifully. I was just taking a walk with my boy on a nice summer eve knowing the Republic is collapsing around me. I wondered briefly if some Roman did the same a long time ago knowing the Barbarians were up and over the gates and his boy would face them. I wish it was on my watch, but it looks like it will be on his.
I knew two inventors who were initially drinking the Kool-aid (They said they felt “Sorry” for me when I didn’t want to give The Won a “chance”) right up to the point when Obama spoke with Joe the Plumber and mentioned that he believed in redistribution of wealth. My friends were then 100% against him -they couldn’t understand why the proceeds from their cutting edge technology which they worked to develop just about 7 days a week should be redistributed to someone else.
The husband would be accepted in more boardrooms if he had credentials to match his expertise so he had been contemplating a Phd - which was not something he wanted but seemed to need to get in the door at some fortune 500 type businesses.
They ended up campaigning against the ‘One’ and when he was elected, sat back in shock and then developed “Plan B” because it was no longer “worth it” to pursue “Plan A” (bring cutting edge technology to market) during a time that the government had a stated intention of making sure they redistributed proceeds.
They moved out of state and went to live in the sticks and home schooled so that hubby could pursue the PhD for 4 years (Obama’s) term. They continued working on their patents etc. but had no intention of bringing anything new and profitable to market until the government was reconstituted or realized that no one wanted to produce if it was to be taken from them. Both husband and wife took up part-time, lesser-skilled technical labor on the side to put the macaroni on the table and they began gardening etc. Since he was re-elected I really doubt they have changed course but are probably amassing a stockpile of patents and ideas for development which they will share with no one until it benefits them to do so. So full-time, top-tier technology intellect dropped down to part-time low tier tech.
And as some have said on this thread, skilled laborers in their upper years are currently excluded from the workplace. Again, top tier skills exit the marketplace.
PS: I believe the term for producers who don’t produce will become “Refuseniks” in the new regime.
O.M.G..... I can't take it anymore. The word "shenanigans" needs to be furthermore stricken from all conservative discussions of the Left. If any word conveys a less serious, less dire, less criminal intent than "shenanigans" I don't know what it is.
Shenanigans are something 8-yr-old children engage in when they put a whoopie cushion on dad's chair. The hard-core American Commie Left does not engage in "shenanigans."
And they portray conservatives as evil, murderous, greedy, oppressive haters. To rebut them with “shenanigans” is not helpful.
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