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U.S. moves one step closer to Civil War SCOTUS strikes down DOMA
Freedom Outpost ^ | June 26, 2013 | Shea Bernard

Posted on 06/26/2013 10:34:30 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

In a victory for sexual perverts in States where it is legal for deviants to be married, The Supreme Court of the United States has spit in the face of Almighty God and every true Christian in this country, and ignored thousands of years of human history in which homosexual ACTS have been tolerated by some, but never have they allowed to marry on a de facto or de jure basis, by striking down the provisions of DOMA that deny sexual deviants the same Federal benefits of marriage.

The Court reasoned that it is unconstitutional to deny marriage benefits to some married couples but allow them for others. On a strictly legal platform, this is not surprising, and frankly was expected. In effect, they are leaving it to the States to decide. States that do not recognize pervert marriages still are not required to do so, and do not have to provide State benefits to same-sex couples, nor recognize same sex marriages of couples who move to their States married in one that permits it, but are merely saying that the Federal government may not give to one group what it does not give to another.

The error in this reasoning is that homosexuals are not a federally recognized protected class, yet the majority court seems to have ignored this axiom. The really disturbing part of this ruling on Doma is that it opens the door for States to permit incestuous, polygamous, and incestuous polygamous marriages; equal rights for all means ALL, right? It appears that the Court did not think this through to its logical conclusion.

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The America that our Founding Fathers fought and bled for is now gone my friends. It is high time to do something about it.
1 posted on 06/26/2013 10:34:30 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

Revolt is coming.


2 posted on 06/26/2013 10:35:17 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: EXCH54FE
This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written: Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."


3 posted on 06/26/2013 10:35:55 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Biggirl

I don’t think this is the 1776 moment, but I believe that it is close at hand.


4 posted on 06/26/2013 10:36:30 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: EXCH54FE
The Court reasoned that it is unconstitutional to deny marriage benefits to some married couples but allow them for others. On a strictly legal platform, this is not surprising, and frankly was expected. In effect, they are leaving it to the States to decide. States that do not recognize pervert marriages still are not required to do so, and do not have to provide State benefits to same-sex couples, nor recognize same sex marriages of couples who move to their States married in one that permits it, but are merely saying that the Federal government may not give to one group what it does not give to another.

Ping for later

5 posted on 06/26/2013 10:36:59 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: EXCH54FE

G-d is going to do something about it. Make sure you know Him.


6 posted on 06/26/2013 10:38:43 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Our great country is a mess right now.


7 posted on 06/26/2013 10:39:06 AM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: EXCH54FE

It ws expected.

the faggots have momentum going for them.

Plus there is a Global feeling that there are too many people on the planet, and queers do not breed.


8 posted on 06/26/2013 10:39:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: EXCH54FE

Where would the early church have been if they had put their faith in Rome?

I cringe every time I see an american flag in a church.


9 posted on 06/26/2013 10:39:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: RJS1950

Our founding fathers would have been shooting by now. No question.

We have more to lose. And they know it.


10 posted on 06/26/2013 10:40:39 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kevin in California

Oh yeah, it’s been upside down for a while and getting screwier as time marches forward.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 10:40:48 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: EXCH54FE

...so which states are the pervert states? All the Red England ones, New York...does anyone know the others?


12 posted on 06/26/2013 10:41:04 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Venturer

Plus there is a Global feeling that there are too many people on the planet, and queers do not breed.


That was actually a subtheme of a chapter in the book “The Forever War”.


13 posted on 06/26/2013 10:41:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: EXCH54FE


U.S. moves one step closer to Civil War – SCOTUS strikes down DOMA”

Pfffffffffffft! Ok, sure. It started long ago in case it hasn’t been noticed.

The left is winning the war, while our side pimps blogs and tries to sell junk to each other, post bible verses, and otherwise shake their fists warning about “civil war”.


14 posted on 06/26/2013 10:44:45 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: EXCH54FE

AMERICA is dead...... No more.

We are living in aMeriKa. Now get over it. Don’t get your pink panties in a wad.


15 posted on 06/26/2013 10:45:47 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: RJS1950

I think you mean a Ft. Sumter moment.


16 posted on 06/26/2013 10:47:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EXCH54FE

America had become a deviant, evil farce of a country. A pathetic, putrid embarrassment of its former greatness. It’s no longer a country worth taking up arms to protect. However, I’d take up arms in a split-second for red-states like my state of Texas, to fight this cancer.


17 posted on 06/26/2013 10:48:51 AM PDT by greene66
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To: cuban leaf
Where would the early church have been if they had put their faith in Rome?

An astute observation.

I'll add that whatever good there was in Rome survived in the Church: the Latin language, law, culture, heck even the dioceses were based on late Roman political boundaries.

Like Rome and like all the rest of us, America only survives through Christ. It's really that simple.

18 posted on 06/26/2013 10:49:27 AM PDT by Claud
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To: EXCH54FE

Oh there is much work to do now. Gay military benefits and family housing. Gay pre-school, gay immigration, gay president, gay everything!!


19 posted on 06/26/2013 10:49:52 AM PDT by BRK
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To: EXCH54FE

Civil War may the only answer. America is lost and will never be corrected without bloodshed. The rights of the States have been taken away. Marriage or gay rights is not a matter for the Federal Government but States rights. The SCOTUS are communists led and that is the final place for rule of Constitutional law could be supported and the court has failed. It has mostly now the arm of the communists political beliefs. Disappointing.


20 posted on 06/26/2013 10:49:52 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: cuban leaf
Our founding fathers would have been shooting by now. No question.

Next on the agenda: rewrite history to call them our "fondling fathers".

21 posted on 06/26/2013 10:49:53 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Biggirl
Revolt is coming.

I disagree.

We're WAY past the point of no return. How many steps are required for CWII to get here? The line will continue to move farther away, because we are being deliberately dumbed down.

Plenty of largesse distributed to the ignorant masses ensures continued stupidity and evil in the boughs of our governmental tree.

22 posted on 06/26/2013 10:51:07 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: EXCH54FE

I have much more issue with the Prop 8 ruling than DOMA. There is reasonable argument that DOMA stretched the powers of the Federal government. While I hate handing the wackos a victory, it may not be an unsound decision.

The Prop 8 ruling has basically removed the power of the people in governance. The citizens of California (of all places) voted overwhelmingly to prevent gay marriage. The government decided not to support the law on the books. Other parties took it to court and the courts have now said the people do not have standing to defend the law of the land. Basically, elected officials have all the power, and citizens have none. Very frightening precedence.


23 posted on 06/26/2013 10:51:36 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: VanDeKoik

you forgot about making jokes about the “Amish” and posting funny cat pictures.


24 posted on 06/26/2013 10:52:07 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: BRK

Gay SCOTUS...oops, already got one...


25 posted on 06/26/2013 10:53:30 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: cuban leaf

It took a while for the shooting to begin back then and there were many negotiations with the king and parliament over a period of years. Communications were not what they are today.

What’s going on today is a piecemiel dissection of our liberties but those are beginning to mount up.

Would a second declaration and a AmRev2 succeed? Hard to tell. The original revolution was not very widely supported throughout the actual war years. Whether it’s full implementation of obamacare and its taxes and death panels or the killing of coal and power production that brings us to it is still unknown but just those two alone will devastate a large part of the population and may be the triggering actions.

DOMA is not enough for most average citizens, regardless of their views on it. Shut down their heat or cooling or give them rolling power interruptions along with confiscating their assets by way of obamacare “taxes” giving them less or no care will have a real effect and it won’t just be the democrats who will be seen as needing removal; it will include most if not all of the current leaders of both parties.


26 posted on 06/26/2013 10:55:19 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: EXCH54FE

They stole the word - not the concept. “Marriage” is now a government benefits distribution arrangement having nothing to do with the traditional relationship between a man and a woman. Churches need to agree on a new name for the latter and move forward.


27 posted on 06/26/2013 10:56:52 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: RJS1950

King George did not have the NSA and DHS to quiet quell any dissenters.


28 posted on 06/26/2013 10:58:17 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: EXCH54FE

Yeah we are dangerously close to a conflict. If amnesty passes, Obamacare gets fully implemented and the coal industry is bankrupted and we still do Quantitative Easing after all that then plan on conflict to spill. Especially when fraud happens at the ballot box and the DOJ, IRS, DHS and NSA come after us. Enough will be enough. I hadn’t even thought about gay marriage until today. Then there is Sharia and Common Core and Agenda 21 and a secret attempt to get a North American Union.


29 posted on 06/26/2013 10:59:43 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: who knows what evil?

Pervert states:

Iowa, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Maryland and Washington right now.

Push in California and in Illinois and New York right now.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 11:04:27 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: ilgipper

Again, watch Obama’s speech on granting visas to gay partners across america effectively ‘recognizing their marriages’.

Also the insertation of this within the immigration bill.

Marriage is a federal issue. Removing DOMA will let them attempt to cram a federal bill permitting Gay marriage everywhere, without the consent, input or otherwise of the states which disagree.

DOMA forced them to go state by state - removing DOMA makes all states irrelevant and puts the battle in the senate and congress.


31 posted on 06/26/2013 11:07:56 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I am in a pervert state now, but will be looking into moving vans next week.


32 posted on 06/26/2013 11:08:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: central_va

No, I meant a 1776 moment. The civil war was a regional group of states which as a whole were persuaded to secede and fight for a very specific reason: retention of slavery by the ruling class of that time. The “enemy” was demonized to bring the common man into the fight using the same tactics as the democrat party uses today. For a CW you need to have coherent and large support in all of the states involved with a great degree of regional coherence or it will be beaten down faster than the old confederacy.

A rev is an overall movement that includes and builds on support in all parts of the country to put aside the current ruling class and in this case to reestablish the Constitution and the Republic, NOT to establish a new constitution and confederation of states. A rev may take years as we have seen throughout history and is not the easy way to go.

In a rev the supporters risk failure and loss of life and treasure but they press forward knowing the risks and knowing the importance of the cause. They also understand from the start that they may lose, but the benefits to all of success again moves them forward. If I pick up the flag I move forward and if I fall I look to the person to my left or right or behind me to pick up that flag and keep moving forward.


33 posted on 06/26/2013 11:09:02 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: who knows what evil?

I have some family business in a pervert state this summer, but after that I’m done with them.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 11:09:43 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: RJS1950

What is there to lose? I’m 32. This is my future and my country. I’m gonna stand and fight.


35 posted on 06/26/2013 11:10:54 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Resolute Conservative

King George had plenty of assets in the colonies to keep track of the colonists.

Also, don’t naturally assume that either of those two agencies are completely bought and paid for; and for that matter don’t assume that the military would heil obama either.


36 posted on 06/26/2013 11:12:04 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: rarestia
Americans have been desensitized to intolerance. Mostly as a result of the Civil Rights Act and employers fear of being sued, the workplace conditions people to tolerate the intolerable or lose their jobs. Tolerating the intolerable is an epidemic in America. I agree that we are WAY past the point of no return. If we can accept a Marxist, Muslim, gay illegal alien president, we'll accept anything beyond that and we have. George Washington would be disgusted that we are more obsessed with our toys and goodies and keeping our jobs than we are the fate of America. We're more worried about being called a racist for questioning 0bama and his protected class minions than we are ensuring our children have an America to live in tomorrow. Washington walked away from a cushy life on his farm and risked death in battle numerous times to oust Tyranny from America.

The story of the 33 year old reporter who crashed into a tree is very chilling. There is more evidence he was working on exposing details of 0bama's police state. I have no doubts this guy was 'taken out' and that his car was electronically commandeered by someone else.

37 posted on 06/26/2013 11:16:20 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: RJS1950

I have faith the rank and file military will back the constitution. The general staff otoh...


38 posted on 06/26/2013 11:16:41 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: JCBreckenridge

Absolutely! A rev could be considered to be a CW but as I noted in another post, the way they are prosecuted is entirely different. An AmRev2 makes more sense. We should not be seceding but moving to reestablish the Constitution and the Republic, to reset the current ruling class from rulers to servants of the people. This is about resetting the powers they have currently stolen from the states and the people.


39 posted on 06/26/2013 11:20:03 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: rarestia

I wouldn’t bother with a reply in the future. He/she posts these 3 words often. It’s like a kind of spam, though I don’t know the purpose. And he/she doesn’t respond to anyone either as far as I’ve seen.


40 posted on 06/26/2013 11:21:45 AM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: who knows what evil?
G-d is going to do something about it.

Got that right. At some point soon our energies will turn to dodging lighting bolts and trying not to turn into pillars of salt.


41 posted on 06/26/2013 11:21:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ilgipper

52%-48% isn’t exactly “overwhelming”.


42 posted on 06/26/2013 11:21:54 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: Resolute Conservative

I’m with you on that point. I’m retired military, NCO and officer, and I know very well that just like the Civil War in particular, a large portion of the senior officer corps (Colonel and above) are self-serving political weasels. That is not to say that there are not some who are true patriots, just that they are few. For those political generals, they can issue all of the orders they want but that does not mean that those orders will be obeyed.


43 posted on 06/26/2013 11:23:40 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Biggirl

“Revolt is coming.”

Indeed it is.


44 posted on 06/26/2013 11:23:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: RJS1950

What do you think the Department of Homeland Security is REALLY for?


45 posted on 06/26/2013 11:25:01 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: RJS1950

Secession accomplishes this without the burden of dragging blue states along.

Why, exactly, does Texas need the federal government?


46 posted on 06/26/2013 11:25:25 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge

It’s already legal in NY, as you may recall.


47 posted on 06/26/2013 11:26:51 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: JCBreckenridge

I’d always planned to at least visit each of the 50 states one time in my life. I got relatively close. But the remaining states are fag-marriage states, and I just have no interest in stepping foot in any of them. Indeed, I really don’t even give a damn what happens to them... natural disasters, 9/11-style terrorist attacks, whatever. I don’t even recognize them as fellow states. Obama-voting blue state perverts want to celebrate faggotry, they can just go burn in hell.


48 posted on 06/26/2013 11:27:41 AM PDT by greene66
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To: ilgipper
I have much more issue with the Prop 8 ruling than DOMA. There is reasonable argument that DOMA stretched the powers of the Federal government. While I hate handing the wackos a victory, it may not be an unsound decision.

I agree; DOMA was a mistake for several reasons: moving the definition of marriage into the realm of the Federal is one, and moving it into the realm of legal definition another (by making it a legal definition there is implicit assertion that the law, and therefore government, has authority over it). IMO, it would have been better to simply require people to use the 7th Amendment instead of relying on legal definition for federal issues like pensions & survivor benefits. (A jury-trial would let society judge what a marriage is in every such case, without involving the FedGov.)

The Prop 8 ruling has basically removed the power of the people in governance. The citizens of California (of all places) voted overwhelmingly to prevent gay marriage. The government decided not to support the law on the books. Other parties took it to court and the courts have now said the people do not have standing to defend the law of the land. Basically, elected officials have all the power, and citizens have none. Very frightening precedence.

This is the key point — and most disturbing.

49 posted on 06/26/2013 11:28:07 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: greene66

I have put off seeing family for a long time, and I need to go.


50 posted on 06/26/2013 11:31:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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