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To: Maelstorm

The problem here is that when you go from 90% opposition 30 years ago to 75% opposition 15 years ago to a (possible) slight majority in favor today, it is ludicrous to pretend that a decades-long trend will suddenly reverse itself for no particular reason.

A much more likely scenario is 75% in favor by 2030 and 90% in favor by 2045.

I’ll always be one of the minority against, but that’s no way to maintain a political program in a democracy.


4 posted on 06/20/2013 11:53:42 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

They said the same thing about the prolife position many years ago but sure it shifted but it really hasn’t moved much since. This trend is highly dependent on media which thankfully is finally breaking down. Also the trend in Southern states is not nearly as pronounced. Also we know exactly why the trend is manifesting. It is not because of vast new information but the increasing prevalence of militant gay propaganda and political correctness which is getting worse but that it is getting worse makes it harder to maintain the faux victim status. Traditional marriage is still polling better than Republicans in blue states that should tell you something. This is something that can be reversed or at a minimum maintained near parity. It means that people in the conservative media need to step it up and make a place for anti sexual progressive position.


6 posted on 06/20/2013 12:11:07 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Sherman Logan
The problem here is that when you go from 90% opposition 30 years ago to 75% opposition 15 years ago to a (possible) slight majority in favor today, it is ludicrous to pretend that a decades-long trend will suddenly reverse itself for no particular reason.

A much more likely scenario is 75% in favor by 2030 and 90% in favor by 2045.

I’ll always be one of the minority against, but that’s no way to maintain a political program in a democracy.


Agreed - the article obscures the real issue, which is not that gay marriage activists have started to win elections on the subject (which is bad enough), but that the overall polling trends are startling and not in our favor.

I don't see how we turn this around, when a state like California goes from 60% opposing gay marriage to 60% in favor in just thirteen years. Our arguments have failed, and we aren't coming up with new ones. So the nationwide march continues into a full gallop.

What reason do we have to believe that this tide can be turned? I'd love to hear one, but nobody's put forth any serious suggestion that it might be possible.
10 posted on 06/20/2013 12:56:46 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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