Posted on 06/17/2013 4:48:33 AM PDT by LD Jackson
LaRaza must have some hi-res pics of Graham with little boys. Like Rubio, he’s been almost single-minded about giving amnesty to 25 million illegals.
If LINDSAY says so, it must be true! She’s always right
Marco RINORubio—according to the CONSTITUTION (or rules)— is NOT eligable to be POTUS (parents not citizens). End of story.
But.......
Get rid of all the rules—and import tens of millions of Mehhicccanns—and maybe he can win! Whatta plan!
My $.02, anyway.
“I almost feel sorry for Marco Rubio. I am certain he started off with good intentions. “
I don’t agree. Rubio is doing this for his own selfish ambitions. He sees all those potential new voters as his pathway to the presidency. Both he and Graham (and McCain) need to go.
The existential problem in this country is that there is no effective opposition to the so-called progressives. If the GOP wants to perish in this manner, so be it.
Lindsay Graham need to retire.
What that means is there are about 90 million eligible adults of all sorts who do not ever vote.
That's the data base. Now the logic. Let's say we need about 4 million more Republican voters to win everything. We currently have about 58 million white Republican voters. A 7% increase in the White voting percentage would do that. We'd need to increase our vote among Latinos by a good 400% but only 250% with Blacks.
Graham and that crowd are doing everything they can to avoid the fact that all we need to do is have an aggressive voter registration drive among possible Republican voters and we win!
The problem with the numbers is that unless we got extraordinarily lucky with exact placement of about 5M votes - just in the right states - you wind up needing a bit more than 4M...
You need to take Ohio, Colorado, Virginia and Florida... plus a few more.
And you have to do that while retaining Georgia, NC, Arizona, etc... so if the base is constantly being ‘purified’ of classes of Republican voters who aren’t ‘hard-core’ enough to suit everyone’s needs then the problem isn’t ‘growing the numbers’ but ‘stemming the drop’.
Each day the numeric advantage held by ‘older upper middle-class white voters’ (like me), is growing smaller. And the numbers of younger and minority growers is increasing...
So when you want to talk ‘winning’ through growing the white-conservative vote, you have to ask yourself ‘from where’?
The vote was split 60/40 in the Republicans favor for older men over 45, but break-even for women and favored Democrats below 45... so the ‘Growth’ would have to come by finding a 4M (using you numbers) advantage in the +45 white-men category.
And to accomplish a 4M+ with at 60/40 split then 20M more have to vote... which is hard to imagine.
And that assumes that moderate Republican votes don’t wind up staying home or switching over.
The Democrats did a blow out effort in 2008 and got all the leftwingtards and black people who wanted to vote registered and out and that was 69 million. They had 4 million die leaving 65 million, but they got 66 million votes in 2012. That means they only found 1/2 million more voters from 2008 to 2012!
We found 5 million and they got 1/10 that number.
5 million more than we have plus 4 million to make up for the dead against the Democrats with their 62 million and no growth (but they still have the boomer deaths to deal with themselves) and we skunk them for the rest of the century!
BTW, we only needed 100,000 voters in the right states to win in 2012 ~ and we'd had Virginia in a walk but Romney demonstrated to us he didn't respect us at all. Margins here can be very narrow ~ he dismissed that ~ after all he had a lot of big money donors in Virginia.
BTW, none of us know any of those big money donors!
BTWm, the Republican max was in 2004 with 63 million. The Democrat max was in 2008 with 69 million. There are 90 million more eligible adults who simply don’t vote. WE CAN GET 10% of them if we care!
I have stared at the numbers from 2012 from various different directions, and have come to the conclusion that no route leads to the WH without grabbing a sizable influx of the younger crowd.
Turnout just isn’t going to get it done in 16. It might gain seats in both houses in 14, but even that sets up a pendulum swing in 16 from blowback...
And while Rand isn’t my favorite, he is the only candidate that ‘might’ be able to leverage some youth vote. Cruz will swing the youth vote farther left!
Cruz is seen as an ‘old-school’ conservative by anyone over 45, and that just doesn’t sell the story to any of the voters that went to Obama in 08 or 12. Rand ‘might’ be able to get voters that went Democrat last time... Cruz will only get the same crowd that came up short last time.
And while Rand won’t inspire the Evangelical crowd, I doubt he would inspire them to let Hillary win by default!
The ticket has to find a way to GAIN more voters, and stop trying to preach to the choir...
‘True Conservatives’ make up over half the party, but the party makes up less than half of the voter base... so ‘True Conservatives’ can’t deliver national elections by themselves.
But what that means is you have to get 100% of the additional 10% that would vote.
Additional Women would have hurt Romney, because Obama won in the group. Additional youth vote would have hurt just as badly.
You have to find enough older men from rural area’s to show up... and most of us did show up!
Every one of my friends and coworkers went down and voted.
You need to start including a plan for the kids or you are just kidding yourself. There will be even fewer of us in 26, and many, many more of them!
I also get tired of hearing about how religious, conservative, and family-oriented "Hispanics" (i.e. Spanish speaking American aboriginals) are. If by "religious" they mean retaining village superstitions, going through the motion of kissing icons and using religious imagery in gang tattoos, then yes, they are religious. If by "family oriented" they mean having large numbers of offspring who they can't support financially and won't raise and discipline, yes, they're "family oriented." If by "conservative" they mean following the same dead-end behavior patterns that lead to indigence, ignorance, and poverty for generations, they are indeed "conservative."
There are 90 million who don’t vote ! Go to them first! They come in all ages.
Unemployment is at 53% among men who are recent college graduates.
I think we can handle things.
BTW, given the extravagant promises and exorbitant costs of allowing Democrats in office it's time to run a real Conservative and see what happens.
BTW, our candidates have to accuse Democrats of crimes and immorality ~ trying to ally us with cannibals in Syria is a grabber.
There's no sense in failing to criticize the Democrats. Romney didn't do it. McCain didn't do it. HOW UTTERLY STUPID OF THEM
Frankly the man was a genius. He rarely, if ever, appealed to the opposition about anything.
Best bet here is to purge the GOP-e leadership elite. I'm sure their voting block would rather vote for Conservatives than wild eyed commies. I hope they would. Bet they hope they would to.
Wow, what a wonderfully insightful summation of Christian Sectarianism!
(Not that I am disagreeing with your point)
Mormon’s, Midwestern Evangelical’s and various different Charismatic Christian movements seem to be able to cope with each other as compatible political partners for the Republican’s(when the Evangelicals can avoid calling Mormonism a Cult)...
While Northeastern Catholics and whatever you want to label the various ‘liberal minded’ denominations (Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopalian, etc.) now have a tendency to vote Democrat, which the Catholics being very hesitant due solely to Abortion.
The US is still vastly Christian in its religious affiliations... but from a political perspective ‘Christians’ are no longer a voting demographic that moves one direction in the polling booth.
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