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Boy Scouts Choose Suicide, and Homo-Activists are Still Outraged
American Clarion ^ | May 28, 2013 | Gina Miller

Posted on 05/28/2013 6:40:21 AM PDT by WXRGina

Surely the national leadership members of the Boy Scouts of America didn’t believe this ungodly, profoundly stupid vote to allow openly homosexual boys to be Scouts would somehow appease the tools of the radical homosexual movement. Surely these leaders who voted against all common sense and against the very principles their organization professes didn’t imagine that the homosexual alphabet soup militia would be happy with the vote and just let things be.

The yeas and nays of the vote had barely been counted when the screeching and wailing commenced from Sodom’s ranks—the Scouts didn’t go far enough! In an abundantly dark-minded statement, anti-Christian, homosexual activist, Wayne Besen, of the misnamed “Truth Wins Out,” immediately called for the Scouts to take their decision further and allow homosexual men to be Scout leaders and volunteers. Besen called the Scouts’ decision “cowardly, incoherent, and mean-spirited” and an “outrageous and offensive policy,” because homosexual men were still excluded.

He also wrote, in part:

Today’s Boy Scout’s decision was insulting and pandered to ignorance and bigotry at the expense of gay people and their families. Allowing gay scouts but not adult scout leaders was a compromise – only in the sense that BSA compromised its integrity and decency. Let’s be clear — this was not a step forward, but a step backward, because it reinforced the most vile stereotypes and misconceptions deliberately peddled by anti-gay activists.

While Besen’s statement could not be further from the truth, a couple of his lines are “technically correct” when we apply their true meaning. The Boy Scouts of America most certainly did compromise its integrity and decency. Both were shattered on the altar of the bully homosexual movement. They left behind their “morally straight” ways for the crooked road to perversion, selling out the boys’ safety and well-being for thirty pieces of corporate sponsorship silver.

And, it was indeed a “step backward,” because as Dr. Scott Lively wrote in his column, “Satan Wins Back the Scouts,” the scouting movement has homosexual roots in nineteenth-century Germany. It was started by homosexuals—pederasts—who desired sexual relationships with young boys. In part, Dr. Lively wrote,

Like so many evils in our modern world, the homosexual roots of scouting go back to Germany, where a pair of pederasts, Karl Fischer and Wilhelm Jansen, and homosexual youth leader Hans Blueher turned a small newly-formed hiking club of adolescent boys into a nation-wide scouting organization called the Wandervogel (Wandering Birds).

Dr. Lively points out the distinction between the German scouting movement and the English one later founded:

Eighteen years after the German scouting movement began, Lord Baden Powell formed the English organization in 1908 that our Boy Scouts is based upon. Powell is often accused by “gays” of having been a homosexual himself, but their evidence is very flimsy and I don’t believe they are correct. In fact, I think Lord Powell was successful only because he built his organization on Biblical values. It is only these values that have protected the Boy Scouts of America from following the example of the Wandervogel…

Of course, when Wayne Besen said the Scouts took a “step backward,” this is in no way what he meant. But it’s true that with this insane vote to admit homosexual boys, the Boy Scouts of America is surely moving backward—back in time to a man-boy sexual scouting movement of the late nineteenth century. It is also certain that the homosexual radicals will persist in harping on the Scouts and filing lawsuits until they see homosexual men admitted as scoutmasters and volunteers.

We know that there have long been homosexuals under cover inside the Scouts, as Dr. Lively points out:

There are no doubt many hidden and very cautious pederasts already lurking in the Boy Scout leadership who are now salivating over the prospect of having in their care self-declared “gay” boys whom they can approach sexually with far less fear of exposure. “Gay” boys who can also help to recruit their peers into intergenerational “gay” relationships.

It shouldn’t surprise anyone that pederasts naturally gravitate to all-male societies. Consider the Roman Catholic priesthood. Look at their list of victims and you will see that the priesthood scandal was not about pedophilia, but pederasty, a form of homosexuality. The Boy Scouts of America is no different, except now the organization itself will do most of the work of recruiting the victims, and is also likely to try and cover up all evidence of the problem so as not to admit their policy change was to blame. (The latter phenomenon seems to be occurring in our military, vis a vis male-on-male rapes, since the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.) But there’s nothing new under the sun. The world has seen open homosexuality in scouting before, as well as its consequences.

Yes, there will be consequences, and the Boy Scouts of America will not like them. This will be a devastating blow to its membership numbers, because “morally straight” families will not permit their boys to be exposed to the dangers of this sinful, degenerate behavior. And, there will certainly be a new, morally straight, American scouting movement to take the place of the Boy Scouts.

The Boy Scouts of America has just voted “yea” to its own demise, and the homo-radicals like Wayne Besen are still not happy, but of course, they never will be.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: besen; boyscouts; bsa; corruption; democrats; faggots; gaystapo; homofascism; homosexualagenda; liberalism; moralabsolutes; nambla; queer; queeringamerica; queerscouts; radicalleft; suicide; waynebesen
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1 posted on 05/28/2013 6:40:21 AM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

I think you forgot to mention that two others lobbyist are demanding that they removed God from the Boy Scout oath...


2 posted on 05/28/2013 6:42:08 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: WXRGina

I’m sure there have been Gay Scouts, just as there have always been gays in the military....that’s not the point.

The point is, once you allow open gays in, they will come in, and will demand the organization accommodates their culture.

I’m sure there have been gay Scouts, and maybe even some Gay Scout parent leaders who were closeted and otherwise were exemplary Scouts....but that was because they still subscribed to the Scout culture, without demanding it change for them.

Now, all bets are off.


3 posted on 05/28/2013 6:47:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: WXRGina
The homo mafia wants the Boy Scouts to advance their NAMBLA mandate, and they seem to be succeeding. IN a few years NAMBLA will be mainstream the way this culture is continually rotting from the inside out.
4 posted on 05/28/2013 6:49:01 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: WXRGina

The Boy Scouts have left me. And I would strongly resist any efforts to have any grandson of mine to ever participate in what can only become a vile institution.


5 posted on 05/28/2013 6:49:26 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: WXRGina

Screw ‘em. The BSA has gone the way of the GSA and, therefore, the sodomites again win real big. May the BSA go to holy hell.


6 posted on 05/28/2013 6:53:27 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: dfwgator

Not only are all bets off now, this decision has effectively destroyed the Boy Scouts Organization. I hope every parent that has a son in this organization will leave it in droves and leave only the sodomites to run it from now own.

And here’s a message to the ones who voted in favor of allowing openly gay members into the Scouts: THIS IS YOUR FAULT, IDIOTS!


7 posted on 05/28/2013 6:53:32 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: dfwgator

That’s right. Official recognition is what they now have, and the Boy Scouts of America is no more.


8 posted on 05/28/2013 6:53:33 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
I have at least two or three neighbors whose kids are in scouts and they know I'm always generous with my donations.
I am not looking forward to telling them I will no longer support scouting - and I will make sure the parents know why.
9 posted on 05/28/2013 6:55:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: WXRGina
“And do not suppose that this is the end. This is only the beginning of the reckoning. This is only the first sip, the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by year unless by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in the olden time.”

• Winston Churchill

10 posted on 05/28/2013 6:56:01 AM PDT by detective
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To: WXRGina

We will likely dissolve our troop in the coming weeks. We have a meeting coming up.

How many small businesses and churches will continue to sponsor or charter BSA troops?

There are alternatives and my wife and I are researching them to move our two cubs. Our oldest Eagled last year and his cousin, who also Eagled, has a job this summer at Philmont. He went ahead and traveled with a friend to camp/work, but they are demoralized. We are demoralized.

The evil left has won a big battle.

Why did “sex” have to be a part of scouting??? We never asked our Scouts their orientation. We didn’t want to know. We just wanted the kids and young men build their character, their life skills and to have good clean fun. Why did the left have to destroy that? Why do they have to be so perverted?


11 posted on 05/28/2013 6:56:19 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: oh8eleven

I stopped buying Girl Scout cookies years ago because of their leftist agenda adoption. I hate that this has happened to the BSA.


12 posted on 05/28/2013 6:58:08 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: WXRGina

So, they reveal their goal - they’re still mad because homos aren’t going to be allowed to go camping with young boys.


13 posted on 05/28/2013 7:00:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: detective

That’s a great quote, spot-on!


14 posted on 05/28/2013 7:00:41 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

To me, the Boy Scouts have just proven the wisdom of my father’s favorite quote, “You are only enslaved to the extent of the charity you receive.”

This was all about the big donors who threatened to drop the Scouts if they didn’t cow-tow to the gay mafia.

This was a stupid move, as the Supreme Court had already ruled that the scouts was a private organization.

Maybe if the scouts had received the visual, and monetary, support from the general public - a la Chick Fil A - they could have weathered the storm. Now, the gays have a precedence of overcoming private organizations, what next?

At this point, the BSA should rescind their recent vote, and stand firm.

Give a mouse a cookie, he’ll want a glass of milk.


15 posted on 05/28/2013 7:00:46 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: FrankR

If you take the King’s Coin you do the King’s bidding.

And Corporate Sponsors are the “King.”


16 posted on 05/28/2013 7:01:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: WXRGina
Usually the president of the United States is the honorary chairman of the BSA and it has always been just an honorary title.
But now we have a president, who has forced his own sexual proclivity upon the organization.

Everything he touches turns to crap.

17 posted on 05/28/2013 7:02:05 AM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: demkicker

One other huge victory for the vile left is the BSA property. How many thousands of acres do the Scouts own? Boy Scouts and friends of scouts have left farms, forests, buildings, vehicles and money to the BSA.

There are great camps like Philmont that now are controlled by the left and some greedy power brokers.


18 posted on 05/28/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: WXRGina
The Boy Scouts of America has just voted “yea” to its own demise, and the homo-radicals like Wayne Besen are still not happy, but of course, they never will be.

Oh, he'll be happy someday - when there is a merit badge for Pederasty.

19 posted on 05/28/2013 7:05:02 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: WXRGina
Never has such a minuscule minority had such a huge megaphone. The homosexual community is like the proverbial flea floating down the river on a leaf while masturbating and yelling: “OPEN THE DRAWBRIDGE!”
20 posted on 05/28/2013 7:07:05 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: WXRGina

The militant homosexuals are demanding access to our children. Just as they demanded access to Lot’s house guests.


21 posted on 05/28/2013 7:08:17 AM PDT by Obadiah (What is twisted cannot be straightened...)
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To: dfwgator
There are things that should always remain part of a subculture. Smoking pot, risky sexual behavior, graffiti tagging, curling... these are behaviors that will always exist in close knit groups that usually revel in their counter cultural activities. They feel daring. Unusual. Special.

If all these subcultures get absorbed into the everyday acceptable mundane world, the rebels WILL find even more radical ways to separate themselves.

Remember when a man with a tattoo meant he was military and had served overseas or gotten really really drunk in Norfolk? Now 19 year old girls named Tiffany are running around covered with doodles that look like the cover of my high school Trapper Keeper.

22 posted on 05/28/2013 7:08:57 AM PDT by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Why do they have to be so perverted?”

ROMANS 1:18-32
18 But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.

19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them.

20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused.

22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.

23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies.

25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other.

27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

28 Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done.

29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip.

30 They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents.

31 They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy.

32 They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.


23 posted on 05/28/2013 7:09:27 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: dfwgator
Don't ask don't tell --> gays in military

Civil Unions --> gay marriage

Only gay scouts --> gay scouts and leaders

Obamacare --> single payer

The liberals have a knack for crafting and implementing compromise positions that are unsustainable in the long run. In the short run they appear to be good sports in accepting the compromise, but in the long run they get all that they want and more.

We on the right know this, but unfortunately there are enough low information moderates in the middle that get suckered into agreeing with this nonsense time after time.

24 posted on 05/28/2013 7:09:45 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: FrankR

That’s keen wisdom from your Dad.


25 posted on 05/28/2013 7:10:11 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
The gay lobby wants the complete destruction of anything wholesome, any and all organization who may oppose or criticize them.
I wish the BSA had stood their ground and fought for their rights from that position, this retreat only emboldened the enemy.

26 posted on 05/28/2013 7:15:07 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: WXRGina

The Boy Scouts are done... While I am sure some of the more liberal denominations will continue support, they are going to lose support from most of the orgs that sponsor them.

I was involved in scouting, I am well aware of what some homosexual boys have done to other boys when they have had the chance. Let alone the fact that the first openly gay scout that turns 18 and wants to be in a leadership role but is denied will start this same nonsense all over again.

I’ve never seen such a self destructive action by an organization in my life.


27 posted on 05/28/2013 7:17:08 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: FreeAtlanta
The annual report notes about 1/2 billion in assets ~ at the same time many, if not most of the camps used for summer camp are owned by OTHER nonprofits that lease to the Boy Scouts and other groups.

Property 'owned' by individual troops is not counted in the national annual report.

There's more there than most folks believe, but actually a lot less than is seen by casual observers.

The Mormons are about 30% of the organization and they maintain what amounts to autonomy so they'll be unaffected by this decision even when it comes to summer camp.

28 posted on 05/28/2013 7:19:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

There’s no MIDDLE. Not in this country.


29 posted on 05/28/2013 7:21:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator
I’m sure there have been Gay Scouts, just as there have always been gays in the military....that’s not the point.

Actually, there have not been. There may have been scouts who had same-sex attraction, but "gay" refers to a political, activist attitude, something that had always been condemned and disallowed in scouting when it came to the forefront. We must use the language accurately and specifically in these dark days.

John Stemberger of OnMyHonor.net characterized this designation best in his op ed piece on this issue:

This [pro-resolution BSA] statement is remarkably disingenuous and fails to recognize the reality of the “gay” culture in America. “Open and avowed” homosexuality or to identify oneself as “openly gay” in America consistently involves a flaunting of sexuality and the promotion of a left-leaning social political agenda. Things described as “gay” (e.g. gay movies, gay websites, gay magazines, gay parades etc…) almost uniformly involve images, speech, symbols and content which is blatantly sexual and utterly inappropriate for children. This hyper-sexualized behavior and conduct (apart from sexual acts themselves) are precisely what the proposed Resolution opens to door to when it proposes to allow open homosexuality in the BSA.

30 posted on 05/28/2013 7:28:11 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: MrB

I think their goal has been pretty obvious all along; queering scouting and pushing the Christians out of it. And they’ve succeeded if the Christians abandon Scouting which I certainly hope they do.


31 posted on 05/28/2013 7:33:56 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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32 posted on 05/28/2013 7:38:37 AM PDT by RedMDer (You are Free Republic. There are no outside influences. Just us, all of us. Please donate today!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The battle on earth between good and evil continues as it was meant to be, until the only King worthy of the title returns to fight the final battle and win the victory. Until that takes place, we are left to fight the skirmishes, suffer defeat, and gain hope from the occasional victory. How else will the judge of the quick and dead have evidence with which to convict the guilty?


33 posted on 05/28/2013 7:38:38 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

And that, FRiend, is the bottom line. Thank you.


34 posted on 05/28/2013 7:39:42 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Rich21IE

The homos aren’t that big of a political force.
Satan’s minions on the left, however, have found an effective weapon to use against Christians.

The goal is to criminalize Christian beliefs and negate Christian influence in the society.


35 posted on 05/28/2013 7:40:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: fwdude
We must use the language accurately and specifically in these dark days.

Right. So quit calling them "gay." They are homosexuals. If you want to distinguish between homosexuality and aggressive activism for homosexuality, use the proper words. Don't redefine the word "gay," which means happy, and then insist normal people are wrong to cling to its true meaning.

36 posted on 05/28/2013 7:52:22 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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37 posted on 05/28/2013 7:54:40 AM PDT by narses
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To: WXRGina

Just wait till the law suits start due to the new tolerance, which will lead to Gay Scout Masters. And don’t tell me all Gays have no interest in kids. Many are pederasts as well as homosexuals.


38 posted on 05/28/2013 7:57:50 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
You forgot one.

“Medical marijuana” —> Legalized Pot

39 posted on 05/28/2013 7:58:22 AM PDT by Obadiah (What is twisted cannot be straightened...)
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To: WXRGina

Evil is never appeased.

It must be resisted and defeated.

Sadly, this will kill a fine institution that has lasted over 100 years.

These fools think they can appease the evil of PC.

I want some names before this is over.

My son became a Life scout over the weekend and I hope his troop lasts the summer for him to get his Eagle.

After that, we’re done with Scouts.


40 posted on 05/28/2013 8:06:15 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: MrB
The goal is to criminalize Christian beliefs and negate Christian influence in the society.

You are exactly right and this is why in America we are heading at a rapid pace to our own destruction.

John Adams - Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
41 posted on 05/28/2013 8:18:38 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: BykrBayb

I use “gay” (always in double-quotes) to denote the activist language that THEY use, never in the context in which they use it. In fact, I have lately refused to even spell it in the traditional manner, preferring to use the novel invention, “geh.”


42 posted on 05/28/2013 8:18:42 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Cheerio

Maranatha.


43 posted on 05/28/2013 8:19:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: muawiyah
There’s no MIDDLE. Not in this country.

Correct. In fact, I have more contempt for "moderates" than I do for outright liberals. They are just liberals who are afraid of the title.

44 posted on 05/28/2013 8:21:23 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Why did the left have to destroy that? Why do they have to be so perverted?

Because it is their nature.

45 posted on 05/28/2013 9:27:18 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

Congratulations to your son. He earned it while it was still meaningful.


46 posted on 05/28/2013 9:37:56 AM PDT by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Never has such a minuscule minority had such a huge megaphone. The homosexual community is like the proverbial flea floating down the river on a leaf while masturbating and yelling: “OPEN THE DRAWBRIDGE!”

Exactly! Perfectly said, wow.

Why on earth are we opening the drawbridge? Why?


47 posted on 05/28/2013 10:36:31 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

‘Never has such a minuscule minority had such a huge megaphone. The homosexual community is like the proverbial flea floating down the river on a leaf while masturbating and yelling: “OPEN THE DRAWBRIDGE!”’

I nominate this post for ‘Metaphor of the Day’. Well put sir, well put indeed...


48 posted on 05/28/2013 11:08:49 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: cyclotic

I earned mine in 1977. Our son earned his on the Feast of St. Joseph, 19 MAY 2013. A before and after designation seems fitting, as in Eagle Scout, BHD (Before Homosexual Decision) or Eagle Scout, AHD (After Homosexual Decision). 01 JAN 2014 being the dividing line.


49 posted on 05/28/2013 11:13:32 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: FrankR
Give a mouse a cookie, he’ll want a glass of milk.

My kids loved that book...... we use that first line all the time in our family.

50 posted on 05/28/2013 1:40:06 PM PDT by super7man
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