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What is an Infidel?
received email | May 23, 13 | Rick Mathes

Posted on 05/23/2013 8:22:30 AM PDT by Art in Idaho

WHAT'S AN INFIDEL ?

The author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry. The man who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you have a purpose. The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States , especially in the minority races.

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked: 'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?' There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers!'

I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?' The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.' He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'

I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!' The Muslim was speechless.

I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question: Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?' You could have heard a pin drop.

Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President. I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference. FOR CHRIST'S SAKE....SEND THIS ON!


TOPICS: Education; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; politics; religion; terror
Received this today. Thought it was too good not to share with fellow FReepers. The time to nip this in the bud in NOW! No more Islamic immigration, no more student visas from Islamic countries, no more mosques, shut down their terrorist training camps, and educate people about this cult. It is not a religion, it is a socio-political tyranny whose sole purpose is complete control of the individual, . . education is the key. Hiding under the veil that "We are a religion" is a bunch of crap. If We the People and our politicians don't come to grips with this, we are doomed.

We are at War with Islam, always have been, always will be.

1 posted on 05/23/2013 8:22:30 AM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

They already have the president.

Next.


2 posted on 05/23/2013 8:28:23 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Art in Idaho

We already lost this in 2008.

We already lost WW3.

If the Nazis would have had nukes, 1.2 billion followers and bases with millions of followers in every nation on the Earth in 1940, the war would have been over BEFORE Pearl Harbor.

Our war is over. The minute they actually strike, it is over. Even all our guns will do little when they have nukes and ours are EMP dead in the ground.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 8:31:28 AM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: Art in Idaho

An infidel is your run of the mill every day guy.

Islam is what’s perverted.


4 posted on 05/23/2013 8:31:37 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: Waywardson
Let's hope there are enough patriots left in America as a whole and in our military, to Resist.
5 posted on 05/23/2013 8:37:18 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho
Unfortunately, this is almost worthless without actual video of the conversation.

I certainly believe that such a conversation could have taken place. But many folks have received forwarded emails that turn out to be only partially true, or not true at all.

Now, if this was accompanied by a youtube video, it would be explosive.

6 posted on 05/23/2013 8:39:22 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Art in Idaho

Is this confirmed as authentic by Rick Mathes?


7 posted on 05/23/2013 8:40:07 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Art in Idaho

The exchange is unlikely to have actually occurred. The Imam would never have answered any of the questions about Jihad truthfully to an infidel. But it made good reading.


8 posted on 05/23/2013 8:41:15 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Art in Idaho

I’m probably one of the few people that have “official” infidel status....

Several years ago when I was staying at the Marriot Hotel in Islamabad, I ordered a bottle of Scotch be sent to my room. (the hotel has no bar). Before they could send it to my room I had to sign a document that they were required to keep on file declaring that I’m not a Muslim and that I was an “Infidel”.


9 posted on 05/23/2013 8:46:00 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: Cyber Liberty

You’re right. Rather than answering so truthfully, the muslim cleric would have smugly resorted to taquya (sp?) and lied to the infidel. Doing that is perfectly acceptable to their way of ‘thinking’.


10 posted on 05/23/2013 8:54:51 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Art in Idaho

Oh, I’m definitely an infidel. I wear my infidelism proudly. If I lived in London, I’d be joining the EDL today.


11 posted on 05/23/2013 8:55:30 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Me. I am also a bitter clinger.


12 posted on 05/23/2013 9:14:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: nevergore
Very interesting. We're you able to sleep then? : )
13 posted on 05/23/2013 9:56:47 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Fidel Castro’s gay lover?

(Thank you, I’ll be here all week)


14 posted on 05/23/2013 9:57:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Art in Idaho

I think this is confirmation - from Mathes’ website.

http://www.rickmathes.org/home0.aspx

NOT THE TIME TO CUT AND RUN

BY D. JAMES KENNEDY

CHRISTIAN POST GUEST COLUMNIST

and the OP’s letter, word for word.


15 posted on 05/23/2013 10:08:55 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: butterdezillion
He does exist, his website is here. Snopes has a take on it here. Interesting.
16 posted on 05/23/2013 10:13:14 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan
Thanks for the link. What a mess we are in. I never met a muslim or knew of any when I was growing up in Iowa. As far as I know, my town of 100,000 didn't have a mosque.
17 posted on 05/23/2013 10:17:26 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Like a baby.....

I actually had a few Pakistani high ranking officials join me in my room to imbibe.

They like the western ways but can’t be seen in public drinking or drink at home....


18 posted on 05/23/2013 10:24:57 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: Leaning Right

A parable is not literally a pair of bulls. Further, an allegory is not a big lizard in a swamp. STOP BEING TO LITERAL MINDED YOU PICKER OF NITS.


19 posted on 05/23/2013 10:37:22 AM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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To: Art in Idaho

This needs to be sourced.

It’s not that I don’t find it in agreement with my sentiments. I do.

But merely saying what I might agree with does not make what is said accurate or true.

When I get something in an Email, I go and look for some original source for it. I never accept political messages in Email that I cannot find original sources for. Even when I do find a source, I often find the Email version has not been faithful to the source.


20 posted on 05/23/2013 11:05:34 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

http://www.rickmathes.org/editorials0.aspx

“Allah or Jesus”

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_allah_or_jesus.htm


21 posted on 05/23/2013 11:12:08 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

1. You need to send that to the orignator of the thread, not me.

2. Separate investigators dispute SOME of what is claimed to have been said and some aspects of the reported events.

I always say: Nothing is worse for a good argument than bad evidence. Bad evidence puts itself under deserved scrutiny, which is used by opponents as evidence that the argument itself is wrong. I never use bad evidence if I can help it.


22 posted on 05/23/2013 11:22:45 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Without meaning to be harsh, someone posting an e-mail without sourcing is usually not interested in actual facts. Most folks just want an echo chamber.


23 posted on 05/23/2013 11:32:20 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

you and I are in agreement


24 posted on 05/23/2013 11:41:33 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Zippo44
STOP BEING TO LITERAL MINDED YOU PICKER OF NITS.

Sounds like something out of Monty Python, but I can't be sure, so I give up. What are you talking about?

25 posted on 05/23/2013 12:47:22 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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