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Rubio Flushing His Political Aspirations -and the Entire GOP- Down the Toilet
Reaganite Republican ^ | 30 April 2013 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 04/30/2013 2:17:57 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

'You’re a nice guy. That's a problem

Nice guys are only popular in prison and in the Senate- and for similar reasons.'


Today's Republican Party suffers from a paucity of those who can effectively communicate the conservative message.
So what a shame I might not be able to vote for one of the few who DID possess that gift...


WHAT on God's green Earth are you thinking, dude? Has it yet occurred that you're a DREAM prop for the Democrats here- the hispanic Republican who's marching lockstep with them on a bill that MANY of us see little good in? That you provide conservative 'cover' for a scheme nobody I know can actually stomach? That they're trying to ram-through the 'Gang of 8' immigration bill before the stench reaches the voters' collective schnoz?

If not to yourself, it does seem glaringly obvious to outside observers they felt YOU were just the ticket- the one who could convince all those ig'nant clingers to fall in-line behind McAmnesty, Linseed, and Schmucky Schumer (the snake)- speaking of, do you also think Obama/Reid/Schumer would be pushing this so hard if it was going to 'save the GOP'...? 

To be brief, this bill is crap:
We’ve only scraped the surface of this current immigration reform bill and what we’ve scraped off is pure muck.

The promises to secure the border are a joke. The “long and hard” pathway to citizenship – which there shouldn’t be anyway – is bypassed with shortcuts. 


Promises that the zillions of people who weren’t invited here in the first place will pay their “back taxes” fall apart when you actually read the language. 

Assurances that they won’t be able to cash in on the welfare state and all its goodies are dubious at best. Even those who want desperately to support wise immigration reform, like Hugh Hewitt and Charles Krauthammer, have their doubts.

Contrary what they're saying, a loophole big enough to drive an overpacked Suburban through will actually fast-track millions of illegals for citizenship- with precious few speed-bumps.

A recent Pew Research poll showed fully 1/3 of Mexican adult citizens would come to the USA if allowed! Add to that the kids they'll bring/make on the way and you get the idea of what a 'pathway to citizenship' with feigned DHS border controls will bring.

The bill also hands way too-much power over to DHS... oft-touted 'triggers' in the bill aren't triggers at-all... and it will ensure Democratic Party dominance ad infinitum.

Marco Rubio, you need to unwind your involvement in this noxious scam as fast as you can muster the courage to admit your mistake and move-on: conservatives will NEVER forgive you for it if you don't. I do believe you're a good guy -impressive political talent- and a principled conservative on most other issues.. and I would like to take you seriously in a presidential primary. 

But I'm really starting to question your judgement- and yes, naivete... it's simply not a very good bill, it's a big, secretive, unread mess that won't deliver anything like the touts are saying... same as all major Obama-era legislation. Your aggressive campaigning on it's behalf is starting to cast a shadow on your personal credibility... some might even say you've been intentionally misleading.



At minimum, give us all some time to have a look at just what's in there... what lesson did you people learn from Obamacare's passage, hidden tricks, and troublesome implementation anyway- how to bypass congressional and public debate and ram bills down our throat in the dead of night? A principled man might arrive at the opposite judgement- don't you think?

PLEASE distance yourself from this 800-page monster and the RINOs/scheming Dems you're currently in the room with, Senator Rubio- and if you really feel the need to be part of some immigration reform, go talk to Ted Cruz and cook-up something a bit more genuine, effective, and honest... but don't even bother if you're not going to secure the border first.

They clearly need you to get this done... YOU might be the only one who can stop it now- DO IT -show us what you're made of- and you just might earn yourself a spot on that 2016 ticket.


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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cfr; enemywithin; guteverify; illegals; immigration; liesaboutbill; loser; newmccain; nwo; reform; rubio; treason

1 posted on 04/30/2013 2:17:58 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: AdvisorB; ken5050; sten; paythefiddler; gattaca; bayliving; SeminoleCounty; chesley; Vendome; ...

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2 posted on 04/30/2013 2:18:37 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican
Assurances that they won’t be able to cash in on the welfare state and all its goodies are dubious at best. Even those who want desperately to support wise immigration reform, like Hugh Hewitt and Charles Krauthammer, have their doubts

They may be able to implement some sort of control over that while they are in-processs, but if they are naturalized, they become citizens with FULL rights, rights that include entitlements. Rights that also allow them, as citizens, to open the Mexican floodgate to bring in millions upon millions of relatives.

Screw Rubio, screw this bill, screw ANY new bill that does not begin with the words "ALL existing Federal immigration laws shall be unilaterally enforced and those officials that bypass or ignore these laws shall be subject to criminal prosecution......." That's the only thing we need do now.

3 posted on 04/30/2013 2:25:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Reaganite Republican

His plan all along was to pull a Charlie Christ and suddenly find his inner Democrat.


4 posted on 04/30/2013 2:25:26 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gaffer

We do not need to reform immigration, we need “Secure Boarder Reform”.


5 posted on 04/30/2013 2:27:48 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

“Rubio Flushing His Political Aspirations -and the Entire GOP- Down the Toilet”

Of course Schumer is smiling. This mistake was pretty obvious from the get-go.

And now, you know the rest of the story.


6 posted on 04/30/2013 2:30:49 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: exnavy

I won’t argue with that, but we still cannot allow these 12 million (ha! this is more like 30-50 million IMO) to remain here and keep destroying this country.


7 posted on 04/30/2013 2:32:43 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Reaganite Republican

I bet the Drug Cartels and Islamic Terrorist groups are sending La Raza Rubio thank you notes right this moment


8 posted on 04/30/2013 2:33:56 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Reaganite Republican

sell out


9 posted on 04/30/2013 2:35:40 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Gaffer

A-MEN, Gaffer


10 posted on 04/30/2013 2:35:54 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Gaffer

if they get amnesty, you can count on 56-60 million more


11 posted on 04/30/2013 2:36:50 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Reaganite Republican

His Chief of Staff is an open borders loon. Should we pretend he was too stupid to know?


12 posted on 04/30/2013 2:37:42 AM PDT by lewislynn ( We bet on the black, it came up red.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Rubio is a little degenerate twerp lawyer and busybody who never had a real job and his life and is busy sticking his nose in the working mans business.

Douchebag pushed to make Florida a primary seat belt enforcement state, I knew he was no conservative right then and there.

I fail to see how much better he is in the Senate than that fake orange suntan faggot that he beat Charlie Crist would have been.

I was NEVER fooled by this con man.


13 posted on 04/30/2013 2:40:30 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Conservatives won't vote for Rubio again, but if he thinks he can make up the deficit with the Hispanic crowd, he's wrong. They will vote Democrat.

Come to think of it, maybe it would be a good strategy for him to change parties.

14 posted on 04/30/2013 2:46:36 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Reaganite Republican

Yet another Reason I am not a Republican anymore.


15 posted on 04/30/2013 3:09:13 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Could not agree more. He’s toast.


16 posted on 04/30/2013 3:09:54 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: AdaGray

Rubio is the hispanic version of obama. I dont trust him one bit.


17 posted on 04/30/2013 3:15:57 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Reaganite Republican

He’s compromised himself and will lash out the very people who put him in office.

He will give the TEA Party the middle finger after 2014 elections.

Admit it Rubio, you just wanted to get elected .


18 posted on 04/30/2013 3:17:44 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Yet another Reason I am not a Republican anymore.
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Well, at least, unlike Rubio you’re admitting it.


19 posted on 04/30/2013 3:24:31 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Reaganite Republican

My major disappointment with this whole Rubio business is that Rush Limbaugh is temporarily being blinded and still has not recognized Rubio for what he is—a disgusting betrayor of his supporters and a amoral opportunist.

Rush usually is very quick to be able to drill down into the reality of a situation or a person. I guess he, like so many of us, had such hopes for Rubio that it’s difficult to give up those hopes.


20 posted on 04/30/2013 3:28:10 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Gaffer
Rights that also allow them, as citizens, to open the Mexican floodgate to bring in millions upon millions of relatives.

30 million new democrat voters will be allowed to bring in their families from Mexico, chechnya, somalia, ethiopia,bosnia , 200 more countries.

no new country destroying laws.

what we need to do is repeal the damage democrats have already done with previous laws: repeal the 1965 immigration act(immigration came from the 3rd world after this), repeal Obamacare etc.

21 posted on 04/30/2013 3:32:43 AM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: Reaganite Republican
bill will give:

Amnesty to 30 million illegals and then they can bring in their families from back home in Mexico

the democrats have been destroying this country with laws like this ,Obmacare, the 1965 immigration act(immigration came from the 3rd world after this law passed )

repeal laws not more new ones

22 posted on 04/30/2013 3:36:28 AM PDT by Democrat_media (s tMary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: exnavy

What we need to reform is our Government.

We need to reform the Senate and the House and the presidency.

Stupid Americans have elected a Government that wants to give away our country, it’s sovereignty and its entirety to an invading nation.


23 posted on 04/30/2013 3:39:52 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: House Atreides

I hated to admit it too- Rubio sounds like a perfect Reaganite on economic and defense matters, and is a gifted communicator

There are far better presidential candidates out there, that’s for sure


24 posted on 04/30/2013 4:05:12 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Your argument implies that perhaps you didn’t know the GOP had already been flushed down the toilet before Rubio backed immigration reform.


25 posted on 04/30/2013 4:08:56 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Reaganite Republican

The term we are looking for is SELLOUT!

After careful consideration, I find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe that ANYONE would think that this is a good bill for the USA—and think ohter than it is CERTAIN DEATH for the Gee Oh Pee.

I think that’s really the plan, after all.


26 posted on 04/30/2013 4:15:29 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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GOVERNOR OBSTRUCTS BENEFITS INVESTIGATIONS--- Massachusetts Gov Deval Patrick refused to divulge info WRT public assistance to the Tsarnaev's (was that on Obomba's orders?). State welfare officials were forced out in the open b/c the info is available to lawmakers. State Rep David Linsky called on the Mass Dept of Transitional Assistance (welfare)..... issuing an ultimatum, giving them 24 hours to provide the info.

The Boston Herald published the state's response to Linsky: 'My office is working to fully comply with your request,' DTA interim commissioner Stacey Monahan wrote, saying they were only providing a summary 'given the great interest in this matter.'

Chechen immigrants Tsarnaev parents were eligible as legal, non-citizen residents who claimed "asylum status" and met the eligibility criteria for DTA, Monahan said in a letter to David Linsky, Chairman of the Mass House Post Audit and Oversight Committee. (NOTE: Claiming "asylum" is the engine for getting a trainload of US freebies.)

Multiple state agencies, at the prompting of Gov Patrick, refused to comment on the bomber brothers' tax-paid benefits.

<><> WRT Tamerlan receiving UI benefits, Labor dept spokesman Kevin Franck refused to comment....

<><> Univ of Mass-- Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly refused to comment on the financial aid app of 19 -year-old soph Dzhokhar. 'It is our position - and I believe the accepted position in higher education - that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent.'

<><> The FCC would not discuss whether the suspected bombers had govt-paid cellphones.

<><> Cambridge housing officials would not comment on if the brothers had Section 8 rental subsidy offered by the HUD to low income households.

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UPDATE Benefits for entire family of bombing suspects likely exceeded $100k
WCRB ^ | 4/29/2013 | By Janet Wu / FR Posted by Alistair Stratford IV

BOSTON — State lawmakers have launched an investigation into whether the suspects in the Boston bombings improperly received public benefits. The House Committee on Post Audit and Oversight is reviewing hundreds of documents collected from state agencies that may have provided benefits to the suspects or their families since 2002.

Sources who have seen the 500 pages of documents sent to the House Committee on Post Audit and Oversight told News Center 5 that the entire Tsarnaev family, including (1) the two bombing suspects' parents, (2) the two suspects themselves, (3) their sisters, (4) the widow of the suspect killed, and, (5) their child -- received "every conceivable public benefit available out there."

(Excerpt) Read more at wcvb.com ...

SOURCE http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/hearing-set-to-look-at-tsarnaev-family-welfare-benefits/-/11971628/19933058/-/9yagjz/-/index.html#ixzz2RtfE87js

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$100K is the tip of the iceberg----the America-hating Tsarnaev's collected bigtime----rode the US gravy train using several identites. The bomber brothers' lavish style could not have been financed merely w/ welfare checks, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc etc etc.

A look at dead bomber Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched several books WRT forging new identities (each identity pocketing US govt freebies).

TAMERLAN'S READING LIST--PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html? ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

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Faked/forged identities is a common practice among "impoverished" latinos on US soil....."the just here for a better life types". The "impoverished" invaders pay $$$ thousands for fake identities. The latino Washington state rapist had some 30 identities. Another latino scammed UI for $3/4 million using fake identities.

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NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (many latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

27 posted on 04/30/2013 4:27:10 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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AS FREEPER BLACKDOG INSIGHTFULLY POSTED People on terrorism watch lists are indicted for sending $2,000 to family members in Islamic countries. Why is this any different?

Boston Mayor Menino, Gov Deval Patrick, John Kerry, Stacey Monahan, the federal government, the State of Massachusetts and its officials (named above) should be indicted en masse, as co-conspirators.

They aided, abetted and financed the schooling, travel, feeding, housing, telecommunications, and healthcare of the terrorist bombers (and their complicit families).

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THOSE PUMPING FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM ARE ALSO COMPLICIT---Immigration reform is the gateway to terrorism. "Ethnic solidarity" is rearing its ugly head (think Boston bombers w/ a latino accent). US politicans are clearly colluding and conspiring with foreign agents to undermine US ntl security and placing Americans in danger. The word is out: " It's open season to conduct dirty deeds....and US politicans are helping us. So, all you "undocumented" terrorists, come on down---invade the US, and bring bombs "

Graphic courtesy of auntb.

28 posted on 04/30/2013 4:36:47 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Marco Rubio

born May 28, 1971 in Miami, FL

Parents were
Mario Rubio born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.
Oria Garcia born in Cuba, naturalized Nov. 5, 1975.

Parents were NOT US Citizens at the time of his birth.

Marco Rubio is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

Marco's status is the same as that of Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Hussein Obama, who is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

29 posted on 04/30/2013 4:52:59 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: House Atreides

I think Rush is playing his cards close to the vest. If he comes out now and chastises him he won’t be able to question this traitors in a trusted state. Watch for him to get to brass tax when election season approaches.

If he called them now they would be able to spin their positions to fool the voters and discredit guys like Rush. As long as he is not gushing over them like Coulter he will be okay.


30 posted on 04/30/2013 5:42:17 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Reaganite Republican

31 posted on 04/30/2013 6:09:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Rome2000

When his name became known here on FR, I was hesitant to believe all of the positive things being thrown about.. (like many of the other politicians here, we have to sit back and wait to see what their real intentions are, which was hard learned in the last 2 elections..)..

I am glad I waited to say anything about him.. but sad that he wasn’t what all of us wanted him to be, a Conservative.


32 posted on 04/30/2013 6:57:31 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: Bikkuri

What happened to all the Marco Rubio for President Freepers? You just don’t see them around anymore. :-)


33 posted on 04/30/2013 8:13:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

There’s a couple who would defend him if they came upon him standing over a body with a bloody knife.


34 posted on 04/30/2013 8:42:58 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I like a lot of things about Rubio myself, but he’s pretty much stuck a knife in it with this

Plus he’s lied and insulted conservatives to move the bill forward- not good


35 posted on 05/02/2013 3:03:45 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I meant in term of the electoral college, we couldn’t even win last election -which I thought was a gimme put- so how we ever going to do it with an 11M handicap!

Spiritually, in terms of principle, mission, or even leadership talent, YEP... the Gee Oh Pee is on life support these days

Some of the new blood worth listening to, tho...


36 posted on 05/02/2013 3:05:45 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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