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MSNBC Host Who Said Kids Belong To Community Also Says Education Funding Desperately Inadequate
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 4/20/2013 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 04/22/2013 1:26:54 PM PDT by MichCapCon

While MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry has created a controversy over her comments about children not belonging to their parents, there is another comment Harris-Perry made that deserves a closer look.

In a promotion for the cable news channel, Harris-Perry said:

We have never invested as much in public education as we should have because we've always had a private notion of children. Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven't had a very collective notion of these are our children. So part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.

While the whole statement is being criticized by many, her statement on education investment is the easiest to look at empirically. If by investing Harris-Perry means dollars, she'd have a hard time convincing people that what she said is credible.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, the U.S. spent more per student than any other country on public education in 2009, the last year for which information was available. For all levels of public education, the U.S. spent $15,812 per student in 2009. That’s the highest in the world. Switzerland was second at $14,716. Mexico spent $2,895 per student.

State and local governments in the U.S. spent $859.9 billion on public education in 2010, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. That’s a 30.1 percent increase from $660.5 billion (adjusted for inflation) that the U.S. spent in 2000.

"There's no question we've had very big increases in federal spending in public education," said Neal McCluskey, associate director of the Cato Institute's Center for Education Freedom. "There is no rational way to say we are not spending a lot on public schooling. We are not under spending."

In Michigan, spending from 2000 to 2010 has increased when adjusted for inflation.

In 2000, state and local governments spent $28.4 billion on all levels of public education, adjusted for inflation. In 2010, state and local governments spent $29 billion on public education.

According to the National Center for Education Statistics, from 1970-2009, funding per pupil for K-12 has increased 300 percent in real dollars.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: funding; melissaharrisperry; msnbc; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills

1 posted on 04/22/2013 1:26:54 PM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon
School funding is a blackmail point for the tax extortionists. Colorado for instance pays $2B for welfare to illegals to buy their votes and to deplete the budget then says we need cookie sales and parents to volunteer to help teachers because there is no money for schools unless we raise taxes.
2 posted on 04/22/2013 1:31:34 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: MichCapCon

Range Rovers cost more than virtually every other SUV.
They are the worst in terms of reliability.

Public schools cost more than virtually every other form of education.
They are the worst in terms of quality.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Perhaps performance might not be a function of cost.


3 posted on 04/22/2013 1:31:55 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: MichCapCon

4 posted on 04/22/2013 1:32:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MichCapCon

If people only knew how much of their property tax levy goes to fund teachers’ salaries, their pensions, and by extension their unions, the education funding debate would be much different.


5 posted on 04/22/2013 1:34:22 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: MichCapCon
Every teacher should immediately have their salary raised to $10 mil a year, and we should scour every Starbucks until we've hired enough teachers so that the average class size is one.

Then the funding level will be "inadequate," but not "terribly inadequate."

6 posted on 04/22/2013 1:41:51 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: MichCapCon

If this person believes that education is underfunded, she can get ahead of the problem and send ALL of her apparently undeserved salary directly to the Department of Education.


7 posted on 04/22/2013 1:44:03 PM PDT by ssaftler (It's Obama's fault)
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To: MichCapCon

Here in Taxifornia over 50% of the budget goes to education and from what I see we get a pi** poor return for our money, and this hyphenated media whore thinks we should spend more? I think if we stopped spending our money to educate Mexico’s children we would have more than enough to educate our own! I think all these people with hyphenated names need to pick one or shut up!


8 posted on 04/22/2013 1:46:18 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MichCapCon
Public education funding is a black pit into which a fortune disappears every year.
Meanwhile, the quality of American public education has been in freefall for decades.
9 posted on 04/22/2013 1:47:26 PM PDT by Amagi (Obama is never so animated as when he is assaulting the Constitution.)
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To: MichCapCon

Mexico spent $2,895 per student. I think this number is kind of high.


10 posted on 04/22/2013 1:47:57 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Mastador1

That’s racist! Count me in.


11 posted on 04/22/2013 1:48:13 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: MichCapCon
Comrade Harris-Perry thinks her communist thinking is now mainstream because all her colleagues think just like her.
12 posted on 04/22/2013 1:53:10 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Resolute Conservative

Not being racist, though I’m sure that there are those who will see it that way, just speaking truth. If were kids from Canada I would be talking about them. I just call it as I see it and know it to be factually.


13 posted on 04/22/2013 2:04:10 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MichCapCon

I wonder what she would consider “adequate?”
$10K per student?
$15?
$25K?

HOW MUCH?

It is not the money. Teachers teaching multiple grades in one-room schoolhouses managed it on a shoestring.

It is the system that doesn’t work. We need to shut down the entire thing, throw it out, and start over.


14 posted on 04/22/2013 2:10:26 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: mountainlion
yep commierado just keeps getting bluer and bluer thanks to all the libtards who moved here. we give more money to support illegal criminals who will now join the same day voter registration fraud being jammed down our throats than we do for our legal state citizens. i still don't understand why a successful lawsuit can't be brought against states who charge out of state tuition for American citizens but in-state tuition for illegal non-citizen criminals.

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15 posted on 04/22/2013 2:14:06 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shoud fear us.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

In Pennsylvania the percentage of school budgets is around 70 percent for pay, pensions and other bennies like medical coverage, free tuition.

Out west in California in some cases the amount is up to 90 percent of budgets.


16 posted on 04/22/2013 2:31:52 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Maybe a person with a brain like yourself should educate them....and I’m not being mean or sarcastic! The public DOES have no idea!
...or contact a talk show host to do it.


17 posted on 04/22/2013 2:40:59 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Nextrush
"... spent $15,812 per student in 2009."

That's $189,744 PER STUDENT for 12 years NOT counting Kindergarten! And when finished they can't even wipe themselves properly! Start cutting the funding 10% per year and don't stop until they start turning out disciplined students prepared to join the workforce (or starve to death). Track how students from each school do at the next level and put the $$ in those schools that excel in preparing the kiddies for the next level. And, if you don't graduate from an accredited high school you are PERMANENTLY ineligible for benefits/"entitlements" - PERMANENTLY.

18 posted on 04/22/2013 2:46:22 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: MichCapCon

it is really hard for the libs to know reality when their heads are up their a$$ho)@$ dontchaknow!


19 posted on 04/22/2013 3:28:02 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia
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